Posted on 12/08/2006 8:31:16 PM PST by rakovskii
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Either we have the courage of our convictions regardless of who the subject is or we are hypocrites. We CAN'T have it both ways!
That is not true. Socialism does not represent truth. Each individual has a *right* to make the best of the circumstances they find themselves in. They have the *right* to pursue happiness and success. They have a *right* to wish their life was different and to do something about it themselves. There is no *right* to a mother and father or even a good mother and father. I do not think you understand what *rights* are.
I will repeat that I understand how hard it is for those on the extremes to see that it is not their place to control others' choices.
Any trolls?
I was going to let that other post go - until I saw yours I supposed most everyone would see how silly it was. Far from pointing out flaws, lonestar's post completely misses the point. In the first place, since virtually all children are raised by heterosexuals, it's completely unsuprising that most homosexuals are raised by heterosexuals.
But where the post goes really astray is by implying the concern is that children raised by homosexuals will become homosexuals themselves when the woory is actually that the children will suffer from not having a mother and a father present, that the nonstandard home environment will hurt them. Now that may be wrong in the present case, but it's not obviously wrong and should therefore not be dismissed out of hand.
And I've seen 14-year old boys:
1) allowed into gay clubs
2) passed around among 30-50+ year old men
3) completely accempted into the culture.
Sorry, the only loser in this gay marriage debate is society. Having lived with gay roommates, having seen that other side, having been to numerous gay establshments, and then having worked in a hospital, there's nothing healthful about the gay lifestyle. At all.
And that will go for parenting, as well.
And that has nothing to do with my former roommate, who I'm still great friends with (even though he is living an incredibly dangerous and unhealthful lifestyle at the moment...).
Yes, it does. It's a wonderful thing to have a child coming-to-be in the Christmas season
I wish the family much happiness!!
BRAVO !
I'll have to say that I do not approve of this situation. Reality being what it is, there's really nothing we can do about it unless we wanted to do things most people whould not accept, me included.
IMO it's a sign of a decaying society.
Isn't it interesting the willingness of the right to accept this situation in light of reality, but the left remains fixated on 'outing' homosexuals in this day and age and damns the right for being mean to homosexuals.
Which party is the most enlightened? It sure as hell isn't the leftist degenerate party that embraces this lifestyle above that of heterosexual households.
You know what is funny?
The same folks a year ago would be in serious denial about Ted Haggard and Mark Foley, they would call you an evil socialist liberal if you dared to note that they were gay.
But, honestly, this time, they are right, really, they are.
LOL
What about individual freedom do you not understand? It may be that you are ignorant of what freedom is and what the United States of America is about.
"Mary Cheney's Pregnancy Affects Us All"
ok...
Moral relativism rears its ugly head.
One may adapt, perhaps, while it is certainly fitting that gays have a selective disadvantage to those with normal mating habits.
Bollocks.
My friends are raising two orphaned sisters from a 3rd world hellhole. They are getting a wonderful life in a loving home.
If that's what you think is a decaying society, then you need to look in the mirror for decay.
"Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative"
Just what exactly are you conservative about? Economics? You sound like a mislabled libertarian to me.
Political conservatives are conservative on morality...and that includes being pro-life, which one cannot be if one is pro-embryonic stem cell research. "Free thought" is usually a code-word for atheism (often linked to evolution) which also is not a conservative position. I'd wager that 98% of professed conservatives are theists.
As far as asking for homosexuals to be left alone--we do leave them alone; at the same time tolerance (practically universally offered all homosexuals these days) is not the same as approval: Mary Cheney is not above criticism for irresponsible and immoral behavior.
According to all conservative value systems (Christian, Jewish, even Islamic and Hindu, for that matter) living in active lesbianism is immoral. Purposely getting pregnant without a husband is also immoral.
No one here is talking about sanctioning Miss Chaney, however we do have the right--and even the responsibility--to condemn immoral behavior, even by (or especially) public figures.
If you want to disagree with the immorality here, fine, it is a free country, but please don't shame the name "conservative" by calling yourself one.
In reading through this string, it appears that the majority vote is for folks to mind their own business and leave Mary Cheney. I agree with the majority view of the posts by the way. However, I do wonder how the vote would turn out if the subject person happened to be a liberal? A conservative just thinking out loud....
Yeah, and Ted Haggard got married and had kids.
He screwed over his wife and his kids because he felt he had to put on a charade to hide the fact that he was gay.
I'd rather have two loving lesbians adopt or have kids than allow a phoney baloney evangelical hypocrite like Haggard to have kids.
Why? Am I going to have to buy a baby shower gift? Babysit the child one night in the future? Go to PTA meetings as a proxy for the parent? How exactly is this going to affect me?
THAT started about 35 years ago with LBJ's war on poverty.
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