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To: Alter Kaker
As the United States is not presently at war with Mexico, the children of Mexican nationals in United States territory are American citizens.

If being invaded by millions of people from a foreign country doesn't constitute war what does?

52 posted on 12/08/2006 4:33:15 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr
If being invaded by millions of people from a foreign country doesn't constitute war what does?

Ok, you've convinced me. Now call up Speaker of the House-designee Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader-designee Harry Reid, get them to introduce Articles of War against Mexico, and maybe you'll be able to keep this child from obtaining United States citizenship.

53 posted on 12/08/2006 4:35:43 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: raybbr

A war would need to include some sort of declaration thereof or deadly military action sanctioned under a general, admiral, or equivalent or higher military or paramilitary officer on one or more sides. Notwithstanding a few isolated incidents in the immediate border area, we continue to maintain an alliance, not a state of war, with the United Mexican States.

The millions of Mexicans streaming across our border do not pose a military threat to the United States; the criminal gangs among them do endanger the lives of our citizens, and we need to control our border and stop the flow of illegal immigrants. But eliminating birthright citizenship is not the proper way to control illegal immigration; it instead alienates Americans who are or were innocent children born in the wrong place. If illegal immigration continues without birthright citizenship, that creates a growing class of people in the United States without any inherent reason to respect our laws (beyond pure fear of our demonstrably incompetent law enforcement) because they cannot participate in the civic process. Such societies ultimately devolve into a ruling citizen oligarchy and a restive, repressed peasantry with neither American nor foreign citizenship and no country where they may reside legally.

Building and manning that border fence will give us actual control of our borders. If we can stop illegal immigration at our borders and open an efficient legal-immigration service, then we do not need to devise crude punishments for future illegal immigrants or their children. Why punish a child throughout his lifetime for the transgressions of his parents? Let us now build, guard, and maintain that fence.


67 posted on 12/08/2006 5:13:00 PM PST by dufekin (media-Democrat-terrorist complex: espionage, sedition, propaganda, treason, and surrender)
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To: raybbr

Make that a formal state of war, with actual casualties (not people murdered by felon (murderous felon) illegal--American felons murder, too), and then it would apply.


68 posted on 12/08/2006 5:13:33 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Warning: fuming.)
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To: raybbr

Make that a formal state of war, with actual casualties (not people murdered by felon (murderous felon) illegals--American felons murder, too), and then it would apply.


69 posted on 12/08/2006 5:13:53 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Warning: fuming.)
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