Posted on 12/08/2006 3:20:30 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
bump.
Would you happen to another interpretation for the second amendment to the Constitution, too? The 14th amendment is rather straightforward.
I can't imagine this woman didn't KNOW she was in labor before she boarded the plane.
She came to this country with the sole intent of birthing an Anchor baby..and that should be FRAUD.
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Lots of smacking on this thread.
What we all think should happen is irrelevant.
The question is, what is the law right now? Not what should it be, but what is it?
A war would need to include some sort of declaration thereof or deadly military action sanctioned under a general, admiral, or equivalent or higher military or paramilitary officer on one or more sides. Notwithstanding a few isolated incidents in the immediate border area, we continue to maintain an alliance, not a state of war, with the United Mexican States.
The millions of Mexicans streaming across our border do not pose a military threat to the United States; the criminal gangs among them do endanger the lives of our citizens, and we need to control our border and stop the flow of illegal immigrants. But eliminating birthright citizenship is not the proper way to control illegal immigration; it instead alienates Americans who are or were innocent children born in the wrong place. If illegal immigration continues without birthright citizenship, that creates a growing class of people in the United States without any inherent reason to respect our laws (beyond pure fear of our demonstrably incompetent law enforcement) because they cannot participate in the civic process. Such societies ultimately devolve into a ruling citizen oligarchy and a restive, repressed peasantry with neither American nor foreign citizenship and no country where they may reside legally.
Building and manning that border fence will give us actual control of our borders. If we can stop illegal immigration at our borders and open an efficient legal-immigration service, then we do not need to devise crude punishments for future illegal immigrants or their children. Why punish a child throughout his lifetime for the transgressions of his parents? Let us now build, guard, and maintain that fence.
Make that a formal state of war, with actual casualties (not people murdered by felon (murderous felon) illegal--American felons murder, too), and then it would apply.
Make that a formal state of war, with actual casualties (not people murdered by felon (murderous felon) illegals--American felons murder, too), and then it would apply.
Let's put Salim Mohammed Abbas in charge of homeland security while we're at it.
Even with the Spanish first name, that is an extremely biased post.
I'll just leave the interpretation to those who are responsible for these amendments and the laws they enacted to carry out their amendments. You koolaid drinkers don't even have a solid supreme court ruling addressing either of these 2 amendments, yet want to replace the legislative history with your own ignorant bias.
No one has yet explained how national law and the citizenship clause were so radically changed in the 1960's without the constitution ever being amended.
Good grief.
True, but we don't have a pandemic of Brits coming across our borders illegally. Most likely, the British mom would not seek citizenship for her child. You can't compare apples and oranges as it were.
You're a creep.
I'll stand by it; it is a truth about America today.
Oh, I've seen lots worse than what he said, and pointed at people on FR.
The plain fact is, we have a pandemic of Mexicans flooding across our borders illegally. You cannot deny that and remain intellectually honest.
You're a creep.
Like I care one whit about the politically incorrect label you affix to me.
Racism has nothing to do with it, Johnny Cochrane......Naturalization and Immigration is filled with those whos sole mission is to put illegals on the ultra-fast track to citizenship.
Try terrorizing somebody else with you political correctness.
Oh no, I'm going to slink away now because some liberal called me a bad name.
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