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1 posted on 12/08/2006 8:17:57 AM PST by Graybeard58
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I'll say it again; Just think of how rich we'd be if we had another 40-50 million illegals.


2 posted on 12/08/2006 8:19:32 AM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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I wonder how much pedophiles or car thieves contribute to the economy?


3 posted on 12/08/2006 8:19:55 AM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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battle socialism, not immigration...

http://www.neoperspectives.com/Amnesty_From_Government.htm


4 posted on 12/08/2006 8:19:59 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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1.4 to 1.6 million illegals.

It's and army.

But not an army that needs weapons to take over America.

But and army than only needs to wait patiently and let the socialists in government and the media hand it to them.
5 posted on 12/08/2006 8:21:25 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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How much of that money gets sent to Mexico via Western Union?


6 posted on 12/08/2006 8:22:01 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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I don't pretend to know much about return on capital and stuff like that, but I find it hard to believe that for every $1 in services the cost, the illegals boost the economy of Texas by $19. Particularly since they aren't typically in great-paying jobs anyway.

I'm more than willing to be shown where I'm wrong...nicely.


7 posted on 12/08/2006 8:22:55 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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Please pile on the negative comments, this shows a slight positive aspect of immigration - which is unacceptable.


8 posted on 12/08/2006 8:23:12 AM PST by SF Republican
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I simply don't believe these numbers. There was an agenda, from the get go, to demonstrate how much immigrants "benefit" the state.


9 posted on 12/08/2006 8:24:40 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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The $17.7 billion positive impact on the state's economy does not factor in any effects of the immigrants sending money home.

Given that there is a business on every other block and a Western Union in many grocery stores doing this it must be HUGE. The Western Union in Randalls on Hwy 6 in Sugar Land has forms in Spanish to be used for money going to Mexico in front of every other form.

10 posted on 12/08/2006 8:26:24 AM PST by TWfromTEXAS (We are at war - Man up or Shut up.)
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I don't trust the report. Here's why, the government benefits from the illegals (cheep labor to constituent donors/future voters) and it is in there benefit to convince us that we need them. Its like a circular argument.
11 posted on 12/08/2006 8:26:50 AM PST by chaos_5
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To: Graybeard58; Eaker; humblegunner; thackney; TheMom; pax_et_bonum; Allegra; Xenalyte; dasher; ...

Well holy sheep-pucky Batman!!!

I guess this makes it ok for them to be here anyway...

Never mind it still cost "US" 929 million dollars...

And that it "BENEFITTED" our "GOVERNMENT" 17.1 BILLION dollars...

Thats just seems like a "do nothing about it" boon to our elected elite...

Makes total sense now...

Pretty soon I see us being told that "spanish" will be our second language...We'll have to attend classes, take tests, be ready to conduct business in it as well...

All in the need to be inclusive, sensitive, and friendly to those who have (and will soon be pardoned) for breaking our law...

Ohhhh, I just can't wait.../big-time sarcasm


12 posted on 12/08/2006 8:27:30 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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I didn't see an estimate on how much it costs a family who had a child molested by an illegal immigrant.Did it mention the cost of car insurance or the injuries and death caused by non insured illegal drivers?Maybe they should add the costs that come from all the drugs that cross our border with the illegal aliens.I don't even want to think about the price we will pay when a few terrorist mingle in with the illegals crossing our border.



6 posted on 12/07/2006 11:04:12 PM CST by peeps36


15 posted on 12/08/2006 8:28:58 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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As far as I can tell, they don't factor in the cost of providing "free" public education to illegals and their children, and providing bi-lingual classes, translators, special remedial services, "free" breakfasts/lunches, etc.


20 posted on 12/08/2006 8:33:42 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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Factor the cost of educating the children of illegals, health care costs, state and local crime, and I'm afraid the Strayhorn report is nothing but Karl Rove talking points.


25 posted on 12/08/2006 8:40:00 AM PST by GolfHacker
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"But they also will send $5.2 billion home to their native countries this year,"

And that's NOT a drain on the American economy????

29 posted on 12/08/2006 8:47:21 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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Texas and California are case studies in right and wrong immigration policy.

They both field millions from Mexico. Texas does a better job of assimilating and YES it does improve the economy.

Texas has one of the best economies in the nation and it is a popular immigration spot for Americans in the 50 states.

How can immigration be so wrong when Texas is so right? Texas ought to be a disaster if anti immigration advocates are even one percent right.

They are not correct. We are constantly told that immigrants will vote Democrat and swing the system. Really? There is no evidence of that in Texas. In fact, over the past 10 years of massive immigration, the Republicans have strengthened their hold on the state.


30 posted on 12/08/2006 8:48:26 AM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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Related article:

"The give-and-take of illegal immigration"

32 posted on 12/08/2006 8:49:51 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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I don't know why, but my meter is pegging after reading this.


35 posted on 12/08/2006 8:56:37 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The terrorists have many allies in the United States, especially in the democrat party.)
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ping


43 posted on 12/08/2006 9:06:33 AM PST by gubamyster
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Overall, the survey found undocumented immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive in state services.

What taxes are they talking about? The "poor" do not pay taxes. This is an outright LIE, IMO.

45 posted on 12/08/2006 9:11:55 AM PST by Last Laugh
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