Rumsfeld faces personal suit by detainees

MSNBC ^ | Dec, 8, 2006 | Joel Seidman

[FairOpinion]

On Friday, the U.S. District Court in Washington will be the scene of a parting shot at outgoing Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld.

Former detainees represented by human rights groups accuse him — along with a top general of the Iraq war, a former commander of the infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and a commander of U.S. military intelligence and police forces — with "derelictions of duty and command" and promoting the practice of inflicting "physical and psychological injuries" on civilians held by the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The case of Ali v. Rumsfeld, to be heard before Chief Judge Thomas Hogan, pits lawyers from two human rights organizations representing nine former detainees at Abu Ghraib and the Bagram military base in Afghanistan, with attorneys representing Rumsfeld, Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, former Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski and Col. Thomas Pappas.

Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First argue that Rumsfeld "authorized an abandonment of our nation's inviolable and deep-rooted prohibition against torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment of detainees in U.S. military custody." They say these acts precipitated "further violations of law and directly led to the abuse of Plaintiffs and other detainees in Afghanistan and Iraq."

[FairOpinion]

For this -- blame the lawyers.

These pathetic jihadist wouldn't even know how to get one, not to mention pay for one.

The ACLU and so-called human rights organizations went and searched for and found the terrorists, to use them as tools to attack our leaders and weaken the US.

Bin Laden and Ahmanijad (sp) must be rolling on the floor laughing.

[FairOpinion]

"to be heard before Chief Judge Thomas Hogan"


He was appointed by Reagan in 1982, and according to Wikipaedia, was the one who:


"Recently, Chief Judge Thomas Hogan ordered Judith Miller of the New York Times jailed after she refused to disclose her confidential source to a grand jury. Matthew Cooper of Time Magazine avoided jail time after he agreed to reveal his source.
In May 2006, Chief Judge Thomas Hogan signed the search warrant authorizing the FBI to search the Capitol building offices of U.S. Congressman William Jefferson, the only such search in United States history.
In July 2006, Chief Judge Thomas Hogan ruled that An FBI raid on a Louisiana congressman's Capitol Hill office was legal. He rejected requests from lawmakers and Democratic Rep. William Jefferson to return material seized by the FBI in a May 20-21 search of Jefferson's office. Hogan dismissed arguments that the first-ever raid on a congressman's office violated the Constitution's protections against intimidation of elected officials. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hogan


I hope he stumps on the terrorists layers and throws their case all the way to Iran.

[DaveyB]

...torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, including severe and repeated beatings, cutting with knives, sexual humiliation and assault, confinement in a wooden box, forcible sleep and sensory deprivation, mock executions, death threats, and restraint in contorted and excruciating positions...

Oh come on we have to listen to treason from Al Gore, Jimmy Carter CNNBCBSMSNABC. Now that's inhumane torture.

[Prost1]

I thought Congress voted War against Iraq.
That makes SecDefs Rumsfeld's actions immune to lawsuit, imo.

IOW, all were treated according to the GCT!

Arrest them in pajamas, treat them as clowns.

[quantim]

"Dead men tell no tales."

[sageb1]

I'm glad I continued reading before responding. You took the words right out of my mouth.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

We know about the ACLU.

Human Rights First formerly Lawyers Committee for Human Rights cites accomplishments. Among them "Everyday Fears: A Survey of Violent Hate Crimes in Europe and North America, a groundbreaking analysis of the alarming increase in antisemitic, anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim hate crimes."

Also, successful suits against Bush Administration personnel and numerous projects to stop the hate crimes by you know who against you know who all.

Oh, they did manage to get an Iranian and a handful of Cubans out of jail -- no not here in the U.S. -- but in their respective countries. Hey! Clinton carried a stage Bible around on Sundays and a lot of people thought he actually went to church.

One of these days.. they are going to yank our chain once too often, I hope I live long enough to see it.

[Liberty Valance]

What a crock. The ACLU should get down on their knees and kiss Rumsfeld's feet for making sure they still have the right to file spurious lawsuits. But, I'm sure, that aspect eludes them entirely.

[Let's Roll]

Well, ok, as long as they didn't have underwear put on their heads ... we have to draw the line somewhere.

[KJC1]

Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First argue that Rumsfeld "authorized an abandonment of our nation's inviolable and deep-rooted prohibition against torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment of detainees in U.S. military custody."

Translation: Enemies of this nation must be treated with nothing but 5 Star, ACLU-approved treatments. They must have pillow-top beds, 500+ count sheets, and room service with fresh flowers.

[kinoxi]

Next thing you know they'll have to sit in the 'time out' chair. Whatever is the world coming to?

[GSlob]

"I hope the judge throws the suit out immediately."
The judge ought to turn medieval on the ACLUers, and hit them with a rack or a fine - the going rate in the 15th century used to be something like 10 stretches on a rack or 20 gold florins [about $ 1200] fine. That would give them a much better perspective on the whole thing, especially if they come short on florins.

[GSlob]

"I hope the judge throws the suit out immediately."
The judge ought to turn medieval on the ACLUers, and hit them with a rack or a fine - the going rate in the 15th century used to be something like 10 stretches on a rack or 20 gold florins [about $ 1200] fine. That would give them a much better perspective on the whole thing, especially if they come short on florins.

[Hound of the Baskervilles]

"They are pushing the country into disaster literally, just to massage their own egos."

I think the libs are pushing the country to disaster and they are doing it on purpose to break the hearts of Conservatives. Liberals know Conservatives love America. Whatever hurts America hurts Conservatives and that's what motivates liberals. I truly believe there are a lot of liberals who would love to see American fail in the war on terror and become just like any other weak dinky country, because in their eyes that would be more fair. Liberals think we deserve to be defeated. There are really no words in the English language that I know of that come close to describing how much I detest liberals.

[AmeriBrit]

Surprise, surprise!

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16132_Outrage_of_the_Day&only

[snip]
"George Soros, billionaire founder of Open Society Institute, the nonprofit foundation that helps fund Human Rights First and is an early contributor to the IFC. Mr. Soros has stated that the pictures of Abu Ghraib “hit us the same way as the terrorist attack itself.”
[snip]

[Mo1]

Wouldn't it be nice if a bunch of Americans got together and sued these camel-riding maggots AND THEIR "LAWYERS" for participating in the jihad against America?

A class action lawsuit against the ACLU??

Don't know if it's possible .. but sure I like the idea

[muawiyah]

Whichever. I'm sure Rumsfeld has access to people who could provide him with a security-proof suicide belt and could take them all out at one time if he could get them into the courthouse.

Wonder if he's up to the sacrifice. Bet he'd say the bottom-feeders aren't worth it though.