Rumsfeld faces personal suit by detainees

MSNBC ^ | Dec, 8, 2006 | Joel Seidman

[FairOpinion]

On Friday, the U.S. District Court in Washington will be the scene of a parting shot at outgoing Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld.

Former detainees represented by human rights groups accuse him — along with a top general of the Iraq war, a former commander of the infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and a commander of U.S. military intelligence and police forces — with "derelictions of duty and command" and promoting the practice of inflicting "physical and psychological injuries" on civilians held by the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The case of Ali v. Rumsfeld, to be heard before Chief Judge Thomas Hogan, pits lawyers from two human rights organizations representing nine former detainees at Abu Ghraib and the Bagram military base in Afghanistan, with attorneys representing Rumsfeld, Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, former Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski and Col. Thomas Pappas.

Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First argue that Rumsfeld "authorized an abandonment of our nation's inviolable and deep-rooted prohibition against torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment of detainees in U.S. military custody." They say these acts precipitated "further violations of law and directly led to the abuse of Plaintiffs and other detainees in Afghanistan and Iraq."

[FairOpinion]

I hope the judge throws the suit out immediately.

This is a travesty.

the ACLU - what a surprise.

[SoldierDad]

I would love to see members of the ACLU placed into the hands of our enemies, and then have them experience the true meaning of "torture". What a bunch of money grubbing ambulance chasers.

[muawiyah]

First let's see the complainant in court ~ Sec. Rumsfeld has the right to confront his accusers.

Then, just announce the time and place.

They are, of course, enemy forces who were released to wonder about by the courts or other fools ~ and if the government won't take action to protect us, then there are undoubtedly public spirited citizens who will do the job for them.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Wouldn't it be nice if a bunch of Americans got together and sued these camel-riding maggots AND THEIR "LAWYERS" for participating in the jihad against America?

[Jaysun]

God Almighty. Thanks stay-at-home idiots and vote-for-democrats-just-to-show-them imbeciles. You've got what you ordered and the next course is better yet - your freedom served on a nice platter of your nation when it had a principal.

[FairOpinion]

"bunch of Americans got together and sued these camel-riding maggots AND THEIR "LAWYERS" for participating in the jihad against America?"


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THAT would be a much more valid law suit, than the one they are bringing against Rumsfeld.

The US should have shot all the prisoners, now they couldn't be running around suing us. No good deed goes unpunished.

[Gene Eric]

>> First let's see the complainant in court ~ Sec. Rumsfeld has the right to confront his accusers.

Which accusers are you referring to: libs, media, or terrorists?

[Txsleuth]

I would sure pay to be in court the day that Rummy would testify.

[Txsleuth]

PING

[kinoxi]

subjecting them to "torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, including severe and repeated beatings, cutting with knives, sexual humiliation and assault, confinement in a wooden box, forcible sleep and sensory deprivation, mock executions, death threats, and restraint in contorted and excruciating positions," according to court documents.

I know it wrong, but 'confinement in a wooden box' for one of these cretins brings a small grin to my face.

[FairOpinion]

Just don't forget that the terrorist handbook instructs them to claim torture, and that terrorists lie a lot.

I bet most of the things they claim never happened.

[Txsleuth]

I knew this same group was trying to bring charges against him in Germany...I didn't know about here.

Please don't tell me that Rummy resigning has allowed them to file these charges here...ugh

[FairOpinion]

"Thanks stay-at-home idiots and vote-for-democrats-just-to-show-them imbeciles."

I feel about the same way.

They are pushing the country into disaster literally, just to massage their own egos.

[FairOpinion]

ping

[kinoxi]

I know much of what they 'claimed' never happened. I liked the mental picture that quote gave me, that's all...

[Gene Eric]

>>The US should have shot all the prisoners, now they couldn't be running around suing us. No good deed goes unpunished.

Do you mean enemy fighters on the battlefield?

No suits, no transportation costs, no medical costs, no food costs, no cost for soccer balls, no printing expenditures, ...

It certainly begs the question of which is more expedient: interrogation or sweeping continuous combat operations. I'm guessing the interrogation process hoped to minimize overall war casualties, but like you said ...

 ... No good deed goes unpunished.
    ... No good deed goes unpunished.
      ... No good deed goes unpunished.
        ... No good deed goes unpunished.

[FairOpinion]

I konw what you mean. :)

[TheLion]

The President should step in and declare them DOA!

[Eagles6]

During the Huk terrorist insurgency in the Phillipines following WWII any terr caught out of uniform was executed. It has been this way during most wars and insurgencies. I believe that it is supported by the Geneva Conventions.

Now they sue Rummy. He is a Patriot and we were lucky to have him serve. Let these poor little jihadis thank mohammed(may pigs be upon him)they aren't pushin up daisies.

Know how the enlightened do that moHAMmed(mpbuh) thing? Howzabout(mpgsbuh)(may pigs be upon him)?

[Fred Nerks]

"Wouldn't it be nice if a bunch of Americans got together and sued these camel-riding maggots AND THEIR "LAWYERS" for participating in the jihad against America?"

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Was the Baker Commission bought off by the Saudis?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1750206/posts

“Lawyers in the Riyadh office have served in community positions throughout Riyadh and Saudi Arabia as a whole. For example, since 1996 we have had lawyers acting as general counsel for the National U.S.-Arab Chamber of Commerce and the Saudi Arabia country coordinator for the American Bar Association's Section on International Law and Practice. In addition, the perspective and experience of James A. Baker III, 61st U.S. Secretary of State and 67th U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, and Robert W. Jordan, who recently served as U.S. Ambassador to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, offer our clients additional resources on which to rely in the region “

Could this have had an influence on the Baker report? There was not one Military person on the commission, nor did they interview any Military person.

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