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Iraq Study Group A Complete Failure - NEWS RELEASE
Move America Forward ^ | 10/06/2006 | Melanie Morgan

Posted on 12/06/2006 9:09:30 AM PST by Impeach98

NEWS RELEASE

CONTACT:  Robert Dixon - Phone: (916) 441-6197 or Email: robert@moveamericaforward.org
December 6 2006

IRAQ STUDY GROUP
A COMPLETE FAILURE

Report Makes Few Constructive Proposals

Advocates Cooperation with Sponsors of Terrorism: Iran & Syria

The Chairman of the nation’s largest grassroots pro-troop organization, Move America Forward, has issued the following statement after reviewing the Iraq Study Group’s report.  A complete analysis will soon be posted on the organization’s website (www.MoveAmericaForward.org).

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STATEMENT BY MELANIE MORGAN, CHAIR, MOVE AMERICA FORWARD:

“The Iraq Study Group has failed.  With great hubris and pomposity, the Iraq Study Group released a report they wrote after having spent limited time in Iraq, and offering few if any new proposals to win the war in Iraq. 

“The principals of the group never once stepped foot in the one region in Iraq where things are actually going well: in the northern region of Iraqi Kurdistan.  It is slipshod work to search for a path to success when you ignore those who have already found a formula for such success.

“We take issue with the Report for the absurd suggestion that the two biggest state supporters of terrorism, Iran and Syria, will be helpful allies. Suggesting that they can be our friends carries the heavy stench of appeasement. It is more reminiscent of Neville Chamberlain’s capitulation to Hitler than Ronald Reagan’s resolute stand against Communism during the Cold War.

“To claim that ‘Every country has an interest in avoiding a chaotic Iraq, including all of Iraq’s neighbors’ ignores the sordid conduct of both Iran and Syria, who have been materially involved in promoting Iraqi violence.

“Their insistence of resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict completely ignores the fact that Hezbollah and Hamas do not even recognize the right of Israel to exist. 

“Negotiating with Syria, Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas displays the ignorance of the Iraq Study Group’s report.  Do the Iraq Study Group members have any sympathy for the forces of democracy in their struggles with those who use terrorism and bloodshed to advance their radical agendas?

“When all the shouting is done with the Baker-Hamilton Report, their bottom line is largely a vindication for the policies of President George W. Bush in his efforts to destroy Islamic fascism. Ground zero of that war is Iraq, and victory in Iraq is the only alternative.


“We agree with the Report, as the last Rumsfeld memo acknowledges, that changes in tactics are required. We expect the Bush Administration to make those changes in due course. Our long-time stated goal is to get American troops out of active combat and more into an advisory role to the Iraqi military.

“We are defeating terrorism in Iraq.  The civil unrest that currently exists in Iraq is largely an Iraqi problem that we must remain committed to helping them resolve, so that we can have a peaceful and democratic Iraq as a beachhead for freedom in the Middle East.

“Islamic fascism must be confronted like Reagan confronted communism, with honesty and forthright acknowledgement of the evil. The commission members should be able to see recent history for what it is and stop hiding behind their obsession with ‘practical politics’ such as their urging for collaboration with Iran and Syria.

“Standing up to evil is the right thing to do, but the Iraq Study Group instead offers us policy wonk analysis, with few constructive suggestions.  While their intentions were noble, their report represents a great waste of time and effort that will do little to help America win the war against terrorism.”

NOTE:  Move America Forward has issued the “Gold Star Family Iraq Survey Group Report” which outlines observations and recommendations to win the war in Iraq.  The report can be viewed at www.MoveAmericaForward.org

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Impeach98
Thanks for the ping.

Very disappointing report.

The Dems. must be delighted.

41 posted on 12/06/2006 11:04:33 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Impeach98

To: Iraq Surrender Group
From: MAF
Subject: F.O.A.D.

Body: See Subject line.


42 posted on 12/06/2006 12:13:25 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Crusades were indigenous peoples' counter-attacks against imperialist foreign Muslim invaders)
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To: Impeach98

prolly never been to Detroit, New Orleans or DC outside the confines of the Federal Preserve, either


43 posted on 12/06/2006 12:33:35 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Impeach98
Of course it's a failure. How could it be anything else with old liberal retread one worlder's in charge like James Baker and Lee Hamilton. Utterly useless for anything other than trying to disguise appeasement to look like "diplomacy".

Don't trust them.

44 posted on 12/06/2006 1:48:16 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: devolve; Impeach98

Thanks for the ping. I saw Bill Crystal tear it up and call it a 'non report' this morning on Fox News.


45 posted on 12/06/2006 2:47:38 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Impeach98
From the Counterterrorism Blog:

Iraq Study Group Report Available Here - Advises Iraq Pullout & "Constructive Engagement" With Iran & Syria

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By Andrew Cochran

The Iraq Study Group Report is out, and here is the full report and a separate file with the Executive Summary. Other ISG files and webpages of interest:

"Iraq Study Group Fact Sheet"
"Iraq Study Group Consultations"
Iraq Study Group Members with bios
"Expert Working Groups and Military Senior Advisor Panel"

UPDATE: N.Z. Bear has converted the ISG report into a series of HTML pages so that bloggers can comment on particular statements or sections of the report and send readers directly to the text in question.

Leaked excerpts included the following:

"If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences could be severe. A slide toward chaos could trigger the collapse of Iraq's government and a humanitarian catastrophe. Neighboring countries could intervene. Sunni-Shia clashes could spread. Al-Qaida could win a propaganda victory and expand its base of operations. The global standing of the United States could be diminished. Americans could become more polarized."
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"Given the ability of Iran and Syria to influence events within Iraq and their interest in avoiding chaos in Iraq, the United States should try to engage them constructively. In seeking to influence the behavior of both countries, the United States has disincentives and incentives available. Iran should stem the flow of arms and training to Iraq, respect Iraq's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and use its influence over Iraqi Shia groups to encourage national reconciliation. The issue of Iran's nuclear programs should continue to be dealt with by the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council plus Germany. Syria should control its border with Iraq to stem the flow of funding, insurgents and terrorists in and out of Iraq."
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"By the first quarter of 2008, subject to unexpected developments in the security situation on the ground, all combat brigades not necessary for force protection could be out of Iraq. At that time, U.S. combat forces in Iraq could be deployed only in units embedded with Iraqi forces, in rapid-reaction and special operations teams and in training, equipping, advising, force protection and search and rescue. Intelligence and support efforts would continue."
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CT Blog experts have already opined on the possibility of "constructive engagement" with Iran and Syria:

Douglas Farah:
"The Danger of Empowering Terrorist States"

David Schenker has written these pieces on other sites:
Been There, Done That: Engaging Syria Isn't Going to Work
Assad State of Affairs
Syria's Answer


46 posted on 12/06/2006 3:12:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
And:

Dec 4, 08:59
The Next War is Already Beginning

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As the Bush administration struggles to find a way forward in Iraq, the next major conflict there is already underway by proxy armies determined to impose their own agenda in the ugly situation that is likely to get uglier soon.

The next war being fought is between Iran, through the Shi’ite, Iranian-backed militias and infiltrated Iraqi army, and Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Arab Sunni world, anxious now to protect fellow Sunni believers who make up the bulk of the internal Iraqi resistence. All of this will make the situation worse for U.S. forces on the ground and further restrict realistic U.S. policy options.

Both groups support terrorist networks that pose direct threats to the United States and the West. Both sides want the United States to be defeated and forced into a long-term retreat in the war on Islamist radicals. There is no good side here.

The London Daily Telegraph says Nawaf Obaid, a senior Saudi government security adviser-is publicly considering providing anti-US Sunni military leaders with funding, logistical support and even arms – as Iran already does for Shia militia in Iraq.

This fear of a Sunni slaughter in the wake of possible reconfiguration of U.S. forces there, was one of the main reasons vice president Cheney flew to Saudi Arabia last week. The problem for the United States is that Saudi Arabia has been unwilling to try to rein in the Sunni forces that are inflicting the most casualties on U.S. troops on the ground.

Yet allowing the Shi’ite militias to run rampant and perhaps eliminate the Sunni threat and its al Qaeda-linked allies, is equally unpalatable. The power center then flows directly to Iran, a nation bent on acquiring nuclear weapons, eliminating Israel and defeating the United States.

Iran is already sensing victory and becoming less and less shy about openly bragging about it.

“The kind of service that the Americans, with all their hatred, have done us — no superpower has ever done anything similar,” Mohsen Rezai, secretary-general of the powerful Expediency Council that advises the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamanei, boasted on state television recently.

“America destroyed all our enemies in the region. It destroyed the Taliban. It destroyed Saddam Hussein… The Americans got so stuck in the soil of Iraq and Afghanistan that if they manage to drag themselves back to Washington in one piece, they should thank God. America presents us with an opportunity rather than a threat — not because it intended to, but because it miscalculated. They made many mistakes.”

So there we have multiple rocks rubbing up against numerous hard spots. Our Sunni supposed allies in the rest of the world backing armed groups that are killing Americans and fighting Iran’s radical Shi’ite regime that would like to be killing Americans.

The chances of ramping up U.S. force levels to have a real and sustainable impact on the conflict are negligable. Immediate withdrawal is not an option. Endless talk about creating a functioning democracy in Iraq is empty. The notion of dialogue with Iran and Syria-when neither has any stake in a secure and stable Iraq friendly to the United States, is a non-starter. And one way or another the bad guys seemed poised to strengthen their positions in the mid to long term.

I doubt the Baker-Hamilton Group can propose a workable solution to this. Perhaps it is time to start looking for the least bad option in this tragic mess.

47 posted on 12/06/2006 3:26:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Brad Cloven

GOOD ONE PING


48 posted on 12/06/2006 4:02:20 PM PST by evilsmoker
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To: Brad Cloven

GOOD ONE PING


49 posted on 12/06/2006 4:02:31 PM PST by evilsmoker
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To: evilsmoker

Thanks for the PING!!


50 posted on 12/06/2006 4:13:03 PM PST by Impeach98 (Anti-war protestors should try holding rallies in Damascus and Tehran!)
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To: Impeach98

http://www.iraqwatch.org/wmd/index.html


51 posted on 12/06/2006 4:35:43 PM PST by Milligan
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To: Impeach98
So much for Baker-Hamilton's faux realism.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

52 posted on 12/06/2006 4:39:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kingu

BTTT


53 posted on 12/06/2006 6:06:41 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Impeach98

BETTER LATE THAN NEVER :)


54 posted on 12/06/2006 6:17:16 PM PST by evilsmoker
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To: Impeach98; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; OXENinFLA; bitt; JustPiper; KittyKares; MamaDearest; ...

THE IRAQ STUDY FOOLISH GROUP

We'll pay forever for this nonsense

 

55 posted on 12/06/2006 6:57:17 PM PST by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: devolve; Smartass

Bump SA, good to see you posting.


56 posted on 12/06/2006 7:11:10 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Smartass; hedgetrimmer

Well, I guess Robert Pastor or whoever leads the CFR now is happy. Here is the home page for this group of over-aged, out of date men.

http://www.usip.org/isg/members.html

"Iraq Study Group
Members

Lee Hamilton and James Baker explain the purpose of the Iraq Study Group to journalists at a press conference held at USIP.The Iraq Study Group is a bipartisan group of prominent Americans supported by four premier institutions. It is led by co-chairs James A. Baker, III, the nation’s 61st Secretary of State and Honorary Chairman of the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University, and Lee H. Hamilton, former Congressman and Director of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.

The other members of the study group include: Lawrence S. Eagleburger, Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., Edwin Meese III , Sandra Day O'Connor, Leon E. Panetta, William J. Perry, Charles S. Robb, and Alan K. Simpson."

All of these old coots are on the Council of Foreign Relations except Paneta, Meese and Perry.

http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/roundtable/CFRS-Zlist.html#W



57 posted on 12/06/2006 7:19:09 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Impeach98

All of your study groups are belong to us


58 posted on 12/06/2006 7:25:28 PM PST by Dov in Houston (Hmmmm....)
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To: texastoo
Pitiful CFR globalists. Why am I not surprised?

 

59 posted on 12/06/2006 7:50:21 PM PST by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000



60 posted on 12/06/2006 8:15:46 PM PST by devolve ( .................always shop, invest, & hire wisely)
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