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LIVE THREAD; Iraq Study Group Releases Report
December 6, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 8:02:58 AM PST by Howlin

Live on cable now...


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1938; bakerreport; chickenlittlemagnet; iraq; iraqsurrendergroup; neville; sellout
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To: EBH

That was an overreaching and nutty statement for her (or any of them to make). Thank the Lord she is gone from the Supreme Court, at least.


521 posted on 12/06/2006 9:11:27 AM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"Started with the swimmer .... Teddy Kennedy and never stopped."

Hey, Ted! You lost to Jimmy Carter! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


522 posted on 12/06/2006 9:11:37 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I don't know.....when a committee runs the military....


523 posted on 12/06/2006 9:11:40 AM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: SE Mom


Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
524 posted on 12/06/2006 9:11:47 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Politics, for too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.)
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To: mystery-ak

Ollie was just interviewing a soldier....I'm sitting here in tears. The politicians and the press have taken over this war and our brave military are their pawns. Just like Vietnam. God help us.


525 posted on 12/06/2006 9:12:00 AM PST by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Howlin

There is something wrong. It's not right to view a record of failures by the this administration and blame everyone but the ones responsible (the media, the left, space aliens, whoever). Let our leaders bear responsibility for their actions. Regardless of political affiliation it is your duty as a citizen of the great United States of America to hold your leaders accountable. The Bush administration screwed up horribly and that's that.


526 posted on 12/06/2006 9:12:19 AM PST by keith maxwell
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

"All we need to do to win is to remain steadfast and persevere."

Amen to that.


527 posted on 12/06/2006 9:13:02 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Jrabbit

Why sould my family sacrifice anymore...just send my son home now.


528 posted on 12/06/2006 9:13:16 AM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: Howlin
Russert says the Committee is bold and commanding, that the Presidency is over, the WOT is over, the Committee is saving the ME from anarchy, the Dems will run the country now.

And Scarborough agrees, chuckling.
529 posted on 12/06/2006 9:13:27 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: NeoCaveman

1- We are not "building" a nation. The nation of Iraq already exists. We are helping the Nation form a new government. And there is nothing "PC" about it as the hysterical hostility of the Left clearly shows.

2- Mookie will get his when the time comes. I don't think he will be around a year from now. Already rumors of his death are being circulated. They are just a little ahead of reality. And, in any case, he is not that big a problem.


530 posted on 12/06/2006 9:13:37 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Carolinamom
Barbara Boxer on Fox now saying "I think it's time that we all work together."

Someone needs to tell her "Oh, we agree Senator Boxer, and we plan on being just as cooperative and helpful as you were during the past 6 years"

531 posted on 12/06/2006 9:13:38 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: All

Wasn't Bush given a copy of this report yesterday? If so, his silence and that of the WH team haven't uttered a word against it IIRC. Wonder why?


532 posted on 12/06/2006 9:13:39 AM PST by processing please hold
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To: mystery-ak
The Iraq Study Group Report has been released. It is located at http://www.usip.org/isg/iraq_study_group_report/report/1206/index.html
533 posted on 12/06/2006 9:13:54 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Howlin
What the Bloody Hell is Vernon Jordan doing on this panel?

Who's been getting hummers from interns that needs to find them a job at American Express?

534 posted on 12/06/2006 9:14:01 AM PST by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: Dog

The Middle East dilemma is much too complex for any one nation to deal with, IMHO. We and the UK have taken on almost the entire burden.

What's the answer? There is no good answer. The situation is absolutely untenable for the following reasons:

1) When the chips are down, Iraqi politicians are not committed to union, and they are not committed to stopping insurgents and militia infecting their sectarian groups. They may simply be too intimidated to clean up their own trash at this point.

2) Syria has acted with impunity in providing haven for terrorists on their side of the border. Our unwillingness to take the battle to the most immediate aiders and abettors provides a massive psychological boost to the enemy and their patrons.

3) Ahmadinejad and his puppet al-Sadr have effectively made the Shiite south an appendix of Iran. A stealth invasion, if you will. Without a single soldier, Iran can funnel money, arms, terrorists, what-have-you into a region already in chaos.

4) Boots on the ground. We simply don't have enough to impose order across Iraq. A draft is political kryptonite, so the politicians have already decided that we're not willing to do what is necessary to win this war. And don't think for one second that our unwillingness to conscript soldiers isn't seen as a societal weakness of America. They see us as AFRAID, and lacking backbone in the end.

5) Iran, Syria, and Turkey. The only partition of Iraq could come if/when the U.S. leaves. With the paucity of leadership from Maliki, et al., it would not be improbable for Iraq to eventually be divided as follows - Iran in the south, Syria in the north, and the Turks in Kurdistan, with Baghdad as a quasi-Berlin split between Syria and Iran. Really, after we leave, there's nothing standing in the way of these groups casting lots for control of Iraq.

So, we have a nation that doesn't want to be a nation, we have foreign governments fueling the chaos with impunity, and a political apparatus here in the United States that believes the population will not tolerate a draft.

Yeah. I do feel your despair.


535 posted on 12/06/2006 9:14:10 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Cold Heat

You have GOT to be kidding me. Did you even watch it? This was NOT intended to body massage public pain over the war. This is an attempt to go behind our President's back. Did you not hear O'Connor?

Are you ignorant of the recommendations made concerning Iran and Israel in this report?

Oh, and they started off by slamming "stay the course", so that dog don't hunt.


536 posted on 12/06/2006 9:14:15 AM PST by NinoFan
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Why would anyone want to join our military (voluntarily) if this is the kind of backing you get from the people back home.

Ever since the election, I'm glad I opted to retire next year, and not take orders to a riverine group when they were offered.

I was going to retire anyways, but those orders were tempting. Glad I resisted, given what's happened these last few months.
537 posted on 12/06/2006 9:14:31 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: McGavin999
Who in their right mind would follow anyone on that panel?

Hey now, it was productive for Monica Lewinsky. After all, Vernon Jordan got her a job at Revlon.....

538 posted on 12/06/2006 9:14:43 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: EEDUDE
If I were an insurgent in Iraq, what this says to me is "keep on doing what you have been doing. It's working."

Exactly. It appears to be a televised, politically correct attempt at national suicide. I hope and pray that the President will save us from this and do the right thing. There is still hope.

539 posted on 12/06/2006 9:14:52 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate
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To: tiredoflaundry

I'm listening to Rush

I was wrong earlier .. it wasn't Major Garrett that asked the good question .. it was the guy from CNN


540 posted on 12/06/2006 9:15:01 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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