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Scientists Study Ancient Gulf Stream
UPI ^ | 12-4-2006

Posted on 12/05/2006 3:11:40 PM PST by blam

Scientists study ancient Gulf Stream

PASADENA, Calif., Dec. 4 (UPI) -- U.S. scientists say they've determined the Gulf Stream was weaker during the Little Ice Age -- a time of unusually cold conditions in the North Atlantic.

That finding by David Lund and colleagues at the California Institute of Technology suggests changes in Atlantic Ocean circulation might have had a significant impact on climate during historical times.

The researchers analyzed sediment cores from the Florida Straits -- the region where the Gulf Stream enters the North Atlantic Ocean. They discovered the Gulf Stream was about 10 percent weaker during the Little Ice Age, which occurred between approximately 1200 and 1850.

The heat transported by the Gulf Stream is known to be an important control on North Atlantic climate, and the possibility of changes in that flow is one of the main uncertainties hampering the forecasting of climate change.

Since current knowledge of Gulf Stream behavior on long timescales relies in large part on geologic records of past changes, the scientists say studies such as theirs should contribute to future climate prediction.

The research appears in the current issue of the journal Nature.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atlantic; climate; godsgravesglyphs; gulf; gulfstream; north; stream

1 posted on 12/05/2006 3:11:44 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 12/05/2006 3:12:24 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

"Little Ice Age - Big Chill" History Channel tonight (Tues 12/5)


3 posted on 12/05/2006 3:18:25 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: blam

So can they also tell if there were other little ice ages by the use of these core samples, possibly a bit further back in time than our records describe?


4 posted on 12/05/2006 3:18:55 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: blam

Sure, but which was the cause? Or is it an unstable feedback system that drives itself into freeze and then into thaw, etc. forever.


5 posted on 12/05/2006 3:21:40 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: blam

"...,the scientists say studies such as theirs should contribute to future climate prediction."
Does this help in the 5-day forcast?


6 posted on 12/05/2006 3:21:47 PM PST by repubpub
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To: blam; SunkenCiv
How can this be? According to the "hockey stick" the Little Ice Age never happened??? The envirowackos are now claiming there is "consensus" about this.

Is this an "inconvenient truth"?

7 posted on 12/05/2006 3:22:48 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: blam

The question is, what did Man do to bring on the Little Ice Age?


8 posted on 12/05/2006 3:46:06 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: blam
Ancient GulfStream??

9 posted on 12/05/2006 3:54:19 PM PST by samson1097
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To: blam

I've always loved those little travel trailers - maybe if they study the ancient ones, they will be able to discover how to make them sooo cool...


10 posted on 12/05/2006 4:08:27 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Attn. CBS Evening News chief: "Be a Hero - Save the World From this Cheerleader")
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To: CIDKauf
""Little Ice Age - Big Chill" History Channel tonight (Tues 12/5)"

Got it, thanks.

11 posted on 12/05/2006 4:12:35 PM PST by blam
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To: SampleMan

:'D


12 posted on 12/05/2006 4:39:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: colorado tanker
Heh... from Michael Crichton:
Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.

Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.

There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.

13 posted on 12/05/2006 6:35:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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14 posted on 12/05/2006 10:14:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks Blam.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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15 posted on 12/05/2006 10:15:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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"Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had."

Global Warming+Carbon Credits=UNRipoff.

16 posted on 12/05/2006 10:51:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MEDIA + ENEMY = ENEMEDIA!)
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To: leilani
Bookmark : Michael Crichton's "Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels" quote in post #13
17 posted on 12/06/2006 5:54:58 AM PST by leilani (Dimmi, dimmi se mai fu fatta cosa alcuna!)
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To: Wraith
Ping!
18 posted on 12/06/2006 8:07:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Great quote!

Those "scientists" should read The Structure Of Scientific Revolutions to see how quickly "consensus" can change in light of new work. IMHO a lot of the global warming crowd is gonna look very foolish in future hindsight.

19 posted on 12/06/2006 8:49:03 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
Of course they ARE foolish, but they will never be portrayed as such in the MSM. Look at all the die-in idiot of 1988. Were they portrayed as idiots only a few years later? No. The MSM ignored inconvenient truths.
20 posted on 12/06/2006 12:43:09 PM PST by SampleMan
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