Posted on 12/04/2006 3:18:35 PM PST by sockmonkey
Wife and two daughters of senior editor James Kim found in Oregon; search is still on for James Kim, who left the car on foot two days ago.
The wife and daughters of missing CNET senior editor James Kim have been found alive and airlifted to a local hospital, authorities announced at a press conference in Merlin, Ore., Monday afternoon.
James Kim left the car on snowshoes two days ago to seek help and has not been found, the official said. The search for him continues.
According to the official speaking at the news conference, the conditions of Kati, Penelope and Sabine are not yet known. More details are expected at a press conference at 5 p.m. PST, which CNET will stream live.
Kati Kim reportedly flagged down a helicopter rented by families of the missing persons.
After searches in Oregon's Curry and Douglas counties, new information on missing CNET senior editor James Kim and his family narrowed the search back to the Bear Camp area in Josephine County, according to reports Monday.
A cell phone tower received a signal from one of the family's cell phones at about 1:30 a.m. on Sunday near Glendale, but officials say the signal is only an indicator the family could have been within 26 miles of Glendale at that time, according to a report in The Oregonian.
Thanks for your response. I know I jumped on your back pretty hard. I understand where you are coming from and I certainly appreciate your background and the sense of survival you have instilled in your son. I think for that you are smart and you also live in an area that requires that.
My point about James (and I am sure you get this) is he didn't have that training, yeah he made mistakes but that doesn't matter. What he did was a selfless act (in fact everyday they were lost he did selfless acts) and for that I think he should be remembered as a hero. Not some city slicker who made stupid mistakes and got himself killed and almost his entire family...etc.... That is why I jumped on you or anybody else that wanted to leave that impression about the man.
It is so easy to pick apart somebody (with hindsight) but to look at what he did as a whole and what he put himself through to save his family - man that is something to embrace, appreciate and to say you know that James Kim is a real hero. It really sucks he didn't make it but he really gave it his all.
I think a lot of people would like to have courage that James Kim had but in fact I think a lot of people would have been selfish and would have done things to preserve themselves at the expense of the others.
Just my two cents...and I take back my comment about how you might treat your son. I hope the wisdom you have instilled carries him for many years.
Lastly, the report I read was that they thought it was a brown bear which I think is a very different story than a black bear - is that correct? Especially near hibrenation? I am not that familar with bears but I can tell you about panthers and sharks and snakes.
I find smug people to me the most obnoxious of all.
They never make a mistake, never have and never will.
They have their directions directly from God and are always right.
They are pretty hard to take.
I wonder how all of those street smart Mafia guys end up full of little round holes?
They are prepared. Have body guards, sleep with one eye open, etc.
The real facts are that there is no one, unless he lives in a cocoon that no one can enter without thorough examination, as does the President and Vice President, that can not be hit, or conned or robbed.
There are so many ways, I won't bother because smug people never get it.
But I am curious as to what you mean when you "drop a dime" on them.
One other thing...
The road that they took by mistake was supposed to be gated and locked. Some vandals cut the lock and opened the gate.
There is the real mistake here. I hope they find out who did that and throw the book at them.
I think he is referring to notifying the authorities. The ole saying drop a dime meant you put a dime into the pay phone and called the police...however now a days it would have to be at least a quarter. :)
OK.
Thanks.
Does that mean he is an undercover DEA ?
I thought you might be interested in the links in my post 1385. Although tragic, they depict an incredible journey of love and courage.
The story appears to be the same one I read.
The map with the story in USA Today was similar if not the same as the first map in this series.
However, all of the other graphics were not in the paper.
My guess would be that these images were submitted with the story and the editor had to choose.
Just my guess.
Anyone who really wants to understand this story needs to look at all of them.
Your contribution to this thread is great.
No I think he is a good citizen who doesn't want drug farmers in his backyard.
I am not so sure.
I hope he will reply and clear that up.
In a few minutes, I will leave the 'puter for eight hours or so.
Hopefully more info by the time I get back.
I am also curious about the dogs.
Apparently he uses dogs to hunt.
I wonder what he hunts.
Sorry WB...not sure I get where you are going with all of this. Even if he were DEA he is probably not at liberty to discuss it.
He uses dogs when he is on the trail because they are an asset to his safety and hunting activities.
Thanks for posting those links. I was looking for that USA Today story last night and couldn't find it. Turns out I read the same story in another place.
With that map, I can now see the "wrong turn" veering off Bear Camp Road you all were talking about before.
We find two or three a month and drop a dime on them.
I agree with you, they are nasty people who are capable of doing much harm. They got my respect but I keep riding and hunting and they keep going to jail. I travel the mountains with my horses mules and big dogs. There are so many noses and ears with me that nothing gets close to us that isn't detected. <<<<<<<<<<
Your pot growers aren't even the ones I'm talking about, but if you are alerting authorities and still out there riding around, best of luck.
It's pointless to debate the Kim situation, the point has obviously been missed. I sincerely hope that all of you who claim you would have never been caught in a situation like this don't have to eat your words.
Very poignant commentary.
Thank you for posting that.
On NBC tonight they had a story about the guy who got stuck in his truck on the same road back in 1995. He lived for over 60 days. Wow. He said there was about 3 feet of snow.
I was thinking, maybe a person could make "snowshoes" by tieing pine branches to their feet, allowing them to walk on the snow better?
I made some comments that I shouldn't have.
How many times can one make postings on a forum after swearing they'd never post on a forum after drinking?
I'm so sorry, the fuse was lit. I couldn't stop myself. Whether that could be construed being an alchohol problem, who can say.
I make no excuses for other people though.
It is my understanding the "Bear Camp Road is the specific road that they went off on. Or perhaps it is the one that takes one to "Buck Camp", or "Bear Camp Pasture", or that segment of road that they were already on that takes them to "Bear Camp Ridge".
I rembember back in 1976 taking "mapped" roads to some property the folks had bought in Colorado that were parcel to the Hartsel Ranch. It was after that incident that I was introduced to topo-maps. Obviously being in the military 4 years later as A.F. (Army support), had a lot to do of by respect for topo-maps. I'm not going to bore you with details. Maps have a way of being quite weird.
I recall sitting at many a campground in National Forest at the end of the day, poring over the State Road map, and the associated topo-map, Dad and I looking at each other and not saying anything, but an unspoken "Wow". I found out what it means to see 5 miles on a map, but to realize there's an additional 20-25 miles of up and down.
1 never go into wilderness without potable water
2) never go into wilderness without decent foul weather gear
3) never go into wilderness without a hunting knife
4) never go into wilderness without anybody knowing where you go
5) never go into wilderness without a topo-map
6) hunting knives are not to be used to kill bears, but to get out the back way of sleeping bag/tent that the bear is trying to get into front way.
7) there are no excuses for your death; there are only explanations for it.
The driver should've known after the first 300yds when branches were scraping across the top of the vehicle, moreover after passing 4 signs warning of doom, after decending a slope, crossing a stream and then struggling to climb a long and lonely trail that something was afoot.
If they wanted to get out, they could've gotten out before it was too late. Perhaps there was something more nepharious afoot than a mere mistake. Just who was driving the car? Who was asleep, and had anybody been doing any drugs?
Everything at the business is o.k., marriage is great, the kids are wonderful, they just come back from a vacation, and boom. Hey feces happens...(or does it)?
The driver should've known after the first 300yds when branches were scraping across the top of the vehicle, moreover after passing 4 signs warning of doom, after decending a slope, crossing a stream and then struggling to climb a long and lonely trail that something was afoot.
That source might not qualify as a "human" in the normal sense.
In 60 days I can walk quite a long distance (I believe that Hemmingway proved that) despite major and serious injury. I will grant you that Hemmingway was a quite larger thanj life guy. All I know is that he enjoyed the NW MI woodlands.
One good thing 'bout being lost in the serengeti of Oregon: one doesn't have to worry 'bout elephants trampling, tse-tse flies eating, or pythons constriction you while taking a break.
A break is that 5 minute per hour rest that is allotted to all travellers. A rest is when you break out the cognac, or whatever else that is being carried. A rest is when the porters get paid, and they decide whether or not to abandon you.
I don't know, just musing here...
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