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Where Have All the Conservatives Gone? Right Runs Out of Potential Presidents (Susan Estrich Alert)
Fox News ^ | Sunday , December 03, 2006 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 12/04/2006 6:52:31 AM PST by streetpreacher

Where Have All the Conservatives Gone? Right Runs Out of Potential Presidents

Sunday , December 03, 2006

By Susan Estrich

Where have all the conservatives gone?

Are there going to be any running for President?

First it was Virginia’s George Allen, the great white hope, the George on a horse, the governor with a smile, on his way to a White House run, once he got past that frisky re-election campaign.

He was, less than a short year ago, the Hotline’s unknown front-runner, the insider’s best guess, the neocon’s next new best friend.

Now, thanks to a Macaca joke, a ham sandwich joke, a terrible campaign, and some smart moves by senator-elect Jim Webb, he’s toast.

Then there was Rick Santorum. Mr. Conservative. Surely he would at least make a run. Give the hard core a place to be. Just as soon as he got past his Senate re-election campaign in Pennsylvania. The number three Senate Republican and conservative stalwart is as good a friend as conservatives have in the Senate.

Correction: Had. History.

Hello Bob Casey. Goodbye Rick Santorum. Another one bites the dust.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; conservatives; estrich; mccain
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To: Democratshavenobrains

I recall that this forum's founder called him a lot worse. And do you recall what he wrote about McInsane recently?


61 posted on 12/04/2006 7:45:42 AM PST by streetpreacher (RUDY/ROMNEY 2008: Supporting Marriage between a man and a woman, then a woman, then a woman...)
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To: roses of sharon
Like not to ignore their base, to stick to conservative principles, not increasing the size and scope of the federal bureaucracy, not signing bills after admitting that they are likely unConstitutional (CFR, etc), running on substantive ideas rather than running as "not Democrats", ignoring the liberal elite talking heads and doing what Americans know is right and just, countering the media spin, not handing over posts and budgets to the Dems as peace offerings that will never be returned... you know, a few of those little things.

Judging by your question, it doesn't look good.

62 posted on 12/04/2006 7:45:51 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: streetpreacher

The MSM's BORK 'EM routine still works quite well with the sheeple out there who think FDR will rise from the grave and be on the ballot in 2008.


63 posted on 12/04/2006 7:47:04 AM PST by relictele
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To: Teacher317

Indiana, Ohio, probably Missouri as well. It wouldn't be pretty.


64 posted on 12/04/2006 7:47:05 AM PST by streetpreacher (RUDY/ROMNEY 2008: Supporting Marriage between a man and a woman, then a woman, then a woman...)
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To: Gaffer

Are you kidding me? I got in late but I read a lot of those early threads.


65 posted on 12/04/2006 7:48:11 AM PST by streetpreacher (RUDY/ROMNEY 2008: Supporting Marriage between a man and a woman, then a woman, then a woman...)
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To: Muleteam1

We turkeys just aren't going to support a liberal Republican party. Have fun with your minority party.


66 posted on 12/04/2006 7:48:36 AM PST by DManA
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To: Muleteam1

Well, if you know that in advance, then maybe you might help the GOP leadership get their heads out of their rears and do something to re-motivate those voters. It ain't rocket science.


67 posted on 12/04/2006 7:49:03 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Gaffer
Actually, it being Feb. 2000, I signed up during the heat of the primaries. Do you remember the infamous thread I posted about earlier when Jim Rob attacked Bush's candidacy. I don't think Bush was anyone's first choice on FR.
68 posted on 12/04/2006 7:51:25 AM PST by streetpreacher (RUDY/ROMNEY 2008: Supporting Marriage between a man and a woman, then a woman, then a woman...)
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To: roses of sharon

Sorry. Thats not the case. The 'Pubbies decided to act Democrats. The "undecided" and "moderate" voters decided to vote for the real thing, instead.


69 posted on 12/04/2006 7:51:52 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: Little Ray

BUMP to accuracy in posting.


70 posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:52 AM PST by streetpreacher (RUDY/ROMNEY 2008: Supporting Marriage between a man and a woman, then a woman, then a woman...)
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To: Wormwood

I agree, Allen on "macaca" (which no one had really heard of before) was eerily similar to Mr. Trent Lott on "President" Thurmond. Both showed a lack of ability to think on one's feet, as you said. But Lott may be able to skip back a little. Allen ran one of the worst campaigns that I have read about. People here all predicted he would cream Webb, but from the start I feared the Webb nomination.


71 posted on 12/04/2006 7:54:56 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

Lot was simply saying something nice to a very old man. Republicans acted disgracefully toward him. Kicking him out over that gained them NO respect, NO friends, and not one black vote.


72 posted on 12/04/2006 7:57:43 AM PST by DManA
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To: Theodore R.

Allen was able to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. I'm surprised he didn't make majority leader.


73 posted on 12/04/2006 7:58:25 AM PST by streetpreacher (RUDY/ROMNEY 2008: Supporting Marriage between a man and a woman, then a woman, then a woman...)
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To: DManA
I agree that Lott did nothing wrong. That was shameful on the part of the Republicans which BTW was spearheaded by Bush's self-serving comments the next morning so he could get his boy in that post. We see how that worked out.
74 posted on 12/04/2006 8:00:36 AM PST by streetpreacher (RUDY/ROMNEY 2008: Supporting Marriage between a man and a woman, then a woman, then a woman...)
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To: streetpreacher
And just as appropriate:

Where have all the cut & run Democrats gone?

75 posted on 12/04/2006 8:00:54 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: streetpreacher

I'm sure when Sheets dies no democrats will say nice things about the old Grand Kleagle.


76 posted on 12/04/2006 8:03:16 AM PST by DManA
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To: streetpreacher


...from what I've heard, a lot of conservatives ran as Democrats this year. Better watch your back at dinner parties bitch...


77 posted on 12/04/2006 8:03:23 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Teacher317
Oh please, my list of complaints about the GOP could go on for days, years even.

We lost some great guys from 94, in the 96 elections because the base decided they were worthless at communication (because the MSM was creaming them as usual), and we complained "because they tried to do to much at once", we are always bitching.

The left is embedded in DC's bureaucracies, the courts, education and the MSM for a reason.

Smart voting.
78 posted on 12/04/2006 8:07:44 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: tcrlaf

>We deluded ourselves into thinking that "Alternative" media ruled the day, when in reality those that control the sheeple's daily news, control the message...<

Here's an interesting take on that subject:
http://www.spectacle.org/496/dream.html

-In his book Bread and Circuses, Patrick Brantlinger analyzes the idea of "bread and circuses" as a narcotic for the masses throughout history. Though he never mentions Richard Dawkin's theory of memetics, the book is the history of a meme, a collection of related ideas replicating through history. Brantlinger defines as "negative classicism" the idea that Rome was decadent and that our society is sliding downhill to a Roman-style decadence. "The shade of Rome," says Brantlinger, "looms up to suggest the fate of societies that fail to elevate their masses to something better than welfare checks and mass entertainments."

Television, as our courts recognize, is a pervasive entertainment; its broadcast waves enter the home uninvited. Harlan Ellison called it "the glass teat" in his book of the same name. Proving McLuhan's theorem that "the medium is the message", television favors the visual and fragmented, jumping jerkily from one dramatic image or scenario to another. It is a better medium for depicting the explosion of a volcano than discussing the merits of a budget proposal. The meme "bread and circuses" is almost, as Brantlinger discovers, worn out as a metaphor for television; it has become a truism, as Minow said, that TV is "an intellectual wasteland". Neil Postman sees in television the death of narrative, of the consistency and logic demanded by typography. By contrast to the Roman Emperors, who could only offer their subjects 93 days a year of games, contemporary Americans watch four or five hours of television almost every day of the year. The narcotic effect of television is correspondingly much greater than that of Roman circuses.

Lawyers complain that juries' sense of justice has increasingly little to do with common sense, causation or traditional views of science. In other words, jurors have, like I did, acquired television brains. The wild claims of "A Current Affair" or The Oprah Winfrey Show are now the rules of everyday life. The fictional trial and the televised trial have merged. Both are pandered to the public as entertainment. It is impossible for an attorney, a defendant, a juror or even a judge not to play to a camera placed in the courtroom. The camera first warps our brains, then our behavior. The people who eagerly go on daytime talk shows to talk about their own idiocy or humiliation are no different than us. Both the camera and its product, the TV show, are a narcotic.-


79 posted on 12/04/2006 8:08:12 AM PST by Darnright
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To: DManA
Lot was simply saying something nice to a very old man. Republicans acted disgracefully toward him. Kicking him out over that gained them NO respect, NO friends, and not one black vote.

Lott learned a very valuable lesson that night.

If you are going to say something that makes you sound like a racist moron, try to keep the press out of the room first.

Chastising Lott wasn't about garnering black votes, it was about damage control (and punishing the idiot before he said something even dumber).

80 posted on 12/04/2006 8:10:37 AM PST by Wormwood (Enjoy this post while it lasts!)
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