Posted on 12/03/2006 6:43:56 PM PST by Lorianne
If it's really democracy it can't be imposed for long since the people will get rid of it.
I believe in two things, freedom and democracy. Freedom is a prerequisite for democracy.
It's largely imposed on us right here at home. There are many who would desire a different system, whether radical or not. But the only choice we are given is elections that are driven by money and sound-bites.
That's our "democracy". Which is still far preferable to losing one's head, but not exactly what was envisioned after the Revolutionary War.
In the hearts and minds of all God's children exists a desire to practice "Free Will". That is what the "Constitution" teaches. For the first time in recorded history people of one nation are willing to die so that the people of another nation can have such freedom. G W Bush did that!
Admirable, but is is logical? This guy is saying no. Perhaps he has a point?
In the hearts and minds of all God's children exists a desire to practice "Free Will". That is what the "Constitution" teaches...
huh?
Interesting argument, I'm afraid. The problem certainly seems to be Islam.
There is one minor--or maybe not so minor--point that I'd question in this article, and in fact it only makes his argument more persuasive. The author translates "Darul Islam" as "house of peace." I wonder if "house of submission" isn't more accurate.
There's the nub of it. Islam demands submission to the absolute decrees an arbitrary God and submission to arbitrary rulers who claim authority in Allah's name. There is no such thing as free will, and therefore no possibility of political freedom.
Yep. Freedom first. Without freedom and limited government, democracy is a threat to the minority. That's exactly why Iraq is in turmoil. Each group is afraid of what the other will do to them if the other is in power.
It's been done before. WWI WWII... This is the first time it's been done for people enslaved to ISslime. How do you free willing slaves? Extreme megatonage JDAMS!
Yes, fundementally incompatible I'm afraid. There are lots of people who are extremely uncomfortable thinking for themselves, and welcome a strict structure imposed on their lives. It certainly makes life easier.
Since I believe in the Christian God, I think it's fair to say that God gave everyone freedom to choose.
Unfortunately, Muslims don't believe that, not one bit. There are several reasons why I consider Islam a heresy, not a true monotheistic religion. One of them is that the Koran directly contradicts the Bible on a number of points. Another is that Islam has some fundamental, basic issues, which go back to Muhammed himself and the Koran.
Christians also believe in conscience, the "law of God that is written in the heart," and conscience is related to free will and helps to guide it. But it's possible to sin to the extent that you become deaf to conscience, and I'm sorry to say that seems to be the state that Muslim extremists, at least, are in.
It's really hard not to conclude that Allah is nothing but a mask for Satan.
DNA to fix the submissive nature of Muslim women is all that's needed.
If democracy is imposed than its not democracy...
It can be done, as you said. But, it may not be possible to do it the way we are trying to do it today.
Overthrowing the government, then immediately handing over to the people in a country like Iraq is probably not the way to go about it. Forceful occupation, elimination of the existing culture, and building up a western-style culture over the course of 20-30 years may do it.
Hand it over to the Iraqis after the 30 year acclimation period is over. And use the natural resources in Iraq to pay for it.
I don't think the problem with Iraq or Afghanistan is anything religious, I think it's our weak attempts at fighting a "civilized" war. We're afraid to buck up and do what it really takes to win, plus you have the constant demoralization heaped on by the left coupled with the public's general unwillingness to back the effort and make sacrifices.
I think failure is not an option...and this fact is REALLY going to come back and hit us hard in the coming years.
Devout muslims are no more likely to accept democracy than devout Christians are to accept mohammed as a prophet of God. Either would be a refutation of their fundamental religious beliefs.
And yes, islam is a creation of satan. I think contemporary Christians have conveniently forgotten about satan. Unpleasant subject, you know!
Democracy requires ethical political servants. Even we don't have that.
Our limited constitutional republic has maximum freedom for the individual. Freedom is man's greatest concept. Under its conceptual umbrella all other concepts are welcome. It is the only concept that buttresses the reality of individual life.
We are witnessing the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collective in the history of civilization.
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