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To: rawcatslyentist
It's been done before. WWI WWII

It can be done, as you said. But, it may not be possible to do it the way we are trying to do it today.

Overthrowing the government, then immediately handing over to the people in a country like Iraq is probably not the way to go about it. Forceful occupation, elimination of the existing culture, and building up a western-style culture over the course of 20-30 years may do it.

Hand it over to the Iraqis after the 30 year acclimation period is over. And use the natural resources in Iraq to pay for it.

16 posted on 12/03/2006 7:57:54 PM PST by EvilOverlord (Socialism makes workers into slaves and couch potatoes into kings)
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To: EvilOverlord
>"Forceful occupation, elimination of the existing culture, and building up a western-style culture over the course of 20-30 years may do it."

Kinda like WWII. Japan and Germany.

37 posted on 12/03/2006 9:34:06 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: EvilOverlord

16 - "Overthrowing the government, then immediately handing over to the people in a country like Iraq is probably not the way to go about it. Forceful occupation, elimination of the existing culture, and building up a western-style culture over the course of 20-30 years may do it."

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Good idea, in theory, however, unfortunatly, Islam culture, not only discourages independent thinking necessary for a democracy, but it is absolutely incompatible, because it basically prohibits "individual responsibility". This is because everything that happens is 'Alah's will', both good and bad, and therefore no individual is responsible for anything, therefore, no one but those who 'speak for Alah' can direct them.

And as they are not responsible for anything that happens, they don't 'understand' 'democracy', where individuals are responsible for their own actions. God is responsible for their actions. It is the ultimate 'cop-out' religion, with a free, guaranteed ticket to a sexual orgy for eternity to anyone who dies killing those who try to defy god's will.

This is a really powerful inducement. How can you beat the promise of an eternity of orgasms?

We do in fact have some good examples of your idea, with British Colonialism, primarily India and Pakistan, which were only 'India', under british rule, for 100 years, and when they became independent, India (Hindu) turned into a real democracy, and Pakistan turned into an unstable democracy, which continually and repeatedly returned to a dictatorship.


51 posted on 12/05/2006 11:26:16 AM PST by XBob (Jail the employers of the INVADERS !!)
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