Posted on 12/03/2006 4:20:04 AM PST by Nextrush
Caracas 02.12.06 (4:54 pm all times are local) This post will be updated regularly in the next 48 hours. Unfortunately the campaign ended. In the last three months Manuel Rosales did what the analysts thought impossible, which is to have united the opposition mounting a phenomenal platform against the incumbent. At this time tomorrow we will have a pretty clear idea of who won. Just then I sat in a meeting with advisors that are considering the different likely outcomes and the stance that Rosales should take in each of them. Very interesting times ahead. During installation of voting centres, composed by a varying number of booths-locally known as mesas-a rather peculiar thing happened: all witnesses and observers designated by the Rosales camp showed up wheras the counterparts from officialdom did not. A sign of things to come?......
6:56pm: Spreading gossip and rumours seems to be the favorite past time of some rank and file oppositionists. I just talked to a retired high rank army officer-whose name I can't reveal- and, in his view, Rosales does not stand a chance for the regieme will roll out some sort of destablization plan at noon tomorrow.....
(Excerpt) Read more at vcrisis.com ...
Today is Election Day. Chavez stayed home this weekend and didn't join the shindig in Havana yesterday like Evo Morales of Bolivia and Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua. What is he planning? What will happen?
Ping.
BUMP!
Happened before and it can happen again. Too bad they let him back into power.
I am praying for these people and their e;lection. Join me. May the best man win and the Venezuelan people get their country back.
Bump.
Thanks for posting. I was about to.
ROTFLMAO!
And watch for Time to name Chavez their Man of the Year.
"This just in: With 0% of the precincts reporting, Chavez has been declared the winner with a 100% landslide. More from CNN on this exciting story as it unfolds"
Anyone want to bet that the opponent wins, Chavez declares the election voided, there is mass rioting and the national assembly declares that there has to be another election in one month?
And Jimmy Carter will support the second election as being best for democracy in the free world.
Ok, there's only one set of numbers you guys care about today. So let's get to it, this time in reverse alphabetical order, just because.
Zogby: Chavez 60, Rosales 31
U Comp Madrid: Chavez 60, Rosales 40
Survey Fast: Chavez 50, Rosales 49
PSB: Chavez 48, Rosales 42
IVAD: Chavez 53, Rosales 28
Hinterlaces: Chavez 45, Rosales 33?
Hannah Arndt: Chavez 51, Rosales 49
EMC: Chavez 57, Rosales 38
Datos: Chavez 55, Rosales 28
Datanalysis: Chavez 53, Rosales 26
Consultores 21: Chavez 58, Rosales 41
CEPS: Chavez 60, Rosales 39
CECA: Chavez 35, Rosales 46
AP/Iposos: Chavez 59, Rosales 27
What does boz say? Neither candidate will receive over 54%.
I said in early October that this will come down to a near 50-50 race and I'm staying with that prediction. It's been hard in the face of all the polls showing a 20-30 point gap, but every time I've run the numbers I've found reason to be optimistic that this race would end up closer than the polls show. I guess we find out Sunday.
UPDATE: Daniel has basically the same prediction I have (it will be a close election) using a different methodology.
UPDATE2: Bienvenidos a todos lectores de Noticiero Digital. Es posible que sea equivocado, pero los numeros que he visto muestra un resultado mas cerca que la mayoria de encuestas dicen. Vamos a ver este domingo.
http://bloggingsbyboz.blogspot.com/
Outstanding post.
Saturday, December 02, 2006
Last minute thoughts and non-predictions about tomorrow
(Elecciones3D) I will be posting tomorrow throughout the day if I have something interesting to say. I am preparing for the worst scenario which is that lines will be like those of the recall referendum vote, when it took me ten hours in line to be able to vote. I will be able to post from the line, but clearly there is little I could tell you except express my frustration. If I have time, I will go around the city and take pictures.
I certainly hope the vote is clean and as transparent as can be tomorrow. To me for this to happen, there can't be any sudden rules changes like there were in the recall vote in 2004. There are four particular aspects that will signal to me that the vote was not tampered with:
---Voting Machines are disconnected all day and only connected after the "original" tally is printed.
---Voting hours are not stretched even after no lines are seen outside the voting centers.
---All audits are carried out in the 54% of the tables.
---All CNE Directors are allowed into the totalization room.
If these four conditions are met and no rule changes are made, then I will believe and abide by the results. That is what democracy is about.
As to what I think will happen, this is the first Presidential election in which I have felt somewhat disoriented. I used to be friends with a pollster which passed away in 2001. He was not only a good pollster, but he was very bright and honest. One of his most important characteristics was that his polls were private, so that he did not look for the limelight. And while he got the last five Presidential elections right, including the top three places in 1993, the only pollster to do so, he was always willing to question his data.
My friend was always worried because he never got abstention right after the 1984 election. This bothered him a lot and he tried various techniques to attempt to reduce this effect. He also did surveys trying to understand why people were ashamed of saying they were not going to vote or why they would not say they were going to vote for a certain candidate, like in the 1993 election in which AD candidate Claudio Fermin had 10% in the polls and was slated to come in fourth place, but came in second with 23%.
I bring all of this up, because polls have been coming in all over the place, from Rosales behind by 20% to Rosales ahead by a couple of points. Typically, polls made at homes give Chavez a larger lead than those using methods that try to separate fear or embarrasment from the equation.
But the point is that no matter which technique is used, polls say that abstention will be low, between 15% and 20%. And I simply don't find this credible, because as I said the other day, when Hugo Chavez was first elected President in 1998, abstention was 36.55%, it jumped to 43.7% when he was reelected under the new Constitution and dropped to 33% in the recall vote.
To me, there is absolutely no reason to think the numbers will improve. In fact, my guess is that they will be closer to those of 2000 than anything, given the level of apathy I have found on both sides, when we compare today to the recall vote. However, it is also true that enthusiasm for Rosales' candidacy has picked up significantly. (I knew three people who were not going to vote tomorrow one month ago, two of them have changed their minds). The same can not be said for the Chavista crowds that have been much smaller than those of the recall vote and the 2000 and 1998 election.
Having said that, it is my conviction that today the number of pro-Chavez registered voters in Venezuela is higher than the number of pro-Rosales voters. What I have no clue about is what they plan to do tomorrow. Thus, it is my belief that abstention will decide the outcome. High abstention levels will favor Rosales, low abstention levels will favor Chavez. Why? Because the opposition hard core is today larger than the Chavista hard core and because given the profile of voters for each camp, abstention has always been higher among the lowest social strata, where Chavez has more support. thus, at or below 33% abstention I expect a Chavez win, while higher levels should tip it over to Rosales.
The Chavista machinery will be hard at work tomorrow, much like the Rosales machinery. The First one though has the advantage of having access to real time data about how many people have voted and where. That is why I would view keeping the polls open until very late as a trick: The law clearly states that after 4 PM only poll stations with lines should remain open, if the CNE orders all of them to stay open, it will be because the Chavista machinery will be going all over to pressure those that have not voted into going.
Going back to abstention levels, it is my belief that what we have seen in rallies reflects precisely that: The pro-Chavez voters are no longer as motivated as they used to be, while the pro-Rosales crowd seem much more enthusiastic. In the end, time may be what Rosales lacked. he only had 10% in August and he has managed to make the race close. With an additional month he may have won even with low abstention levels. Tomorrow by this time, we will likely know if it was sufficient or not...
http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/
Cast my vote, long lines due to fingerprint machines, abstention appears high
(Elecciones3D) After arriving at 6:45 AM to vote, only to find that the vote had not even started at my center, I finally left at 10:30 AM, an absurd three hours and forty five minutes later. While much better that the recall vote, when it took me a full ten hours, so much fos spending hundreds of million of dollars to voting machines and equipment only to make it worse than ever.
And the bottleneck was clearly due to the fingerprint machines as you will see in pictures I will post later. At the beginning the voting officials at my center were not even following the limit rule of one minute in the fingerprint machine, which made the process longer, but this time around people were clearly not going to take it and started chanting "out with the fingerprint machines", which made them streamline the process. Besides the one minute limit, they began organizing the flow better and it seemed to improve.
After voting I went around Caracas and found out things were not very uniform. I saw centers one block away from each other, one with a huge line and the other with no line. I saw centers downtown with no lines and remarkably, very active commercial activity, including a fruit and vegetable market, rare on an election day.
My feeling is that in my voting center abstention will be larger than at the RR when close to 90% of the people voted.
At 10: 45 AM the Electoral Board reported that 2.75% of the centers had yet to open in a clear indication that there were problems in many locations. There were reports of the ballots once in a while being blank, one lady at my center had that problem, but she went back, repeated the process and got it right. My ballot was certainly as voted, which was easy to check as the name of the candidate I voted for was clearly printed in large letters. It was harder to check the name of the party I voted for.
At the center I voted there were four fingerprint machines and seven voting machines. The lines were scrambled for the fingerprint machines and officials had no control over the order so even if they knew how I voted, they ahd no way of knowing who voted and when.
I will be reporting as the day goes by, some pictures in a while.
http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/
Go to this link for pictures of the voting:lines. fingerprinting, etc.
http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/
Rosales says...
Quico says: Manuel Rosales has just told the press that they've noted cases where people who vote for him get blank paper receipts. He urged people to check their paper receipt carefully before depositing it.
He reported unusual delays due to problems with the voting machines in 36% of polling stations that have traditionally favored the opposition, 20% of polling stations that have traditionally split roughly evenly and 5% of polling stations that have traditionally favored the government
Provocation? Fraud? Fluke? A bit of each?
[The outcome in Venezuela is pre determined.
And watch for Time to name Chavez their Man of the Year.]
Also, watch for katie couric and chris matthews to go to venezuala and do reports on how well off the people are because of the grand health care they have- much like cuba's all too wonderful health care system, or so mike wallace & ilk would have us beleive- as if health care automatically negates all the ills of comunism and high crimes against humanity! http://sacredscoop.com
Baba Wawa will be asking for a Chavez interview!
Heil Chavez!... oops Biba Chavez
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