Posted on 12/01/2006 11:48:30 AM PST by Bokababe
The head of the Holocaust memorial group the Simon Wiesenthal Center criticized Croatia over a newly opened museum at the site of a fascist World War II concentration camp, in written comments.
"I saw an exhibition which was a big disappointment," Efraim Zuroff wrote in an article published in the weekly Globus.
"To my disbelief, there was not a single photograph of the commanders of Jasenovac," he said of the camp at which his organization estimates some 600,000 mostly Serbs and Jews were killed during World War II.
Zuroff said that any young visitors to the museum would "leave probably more confused then they were before" they visited an education center on atrocities committed at the camp by the "Ustasha" regime.
"In a museum dealing with nameless Ustasha (members), no individual can be made responsible," said Zuroff.
"More importantly, it lacks materials or explanations about the development of the Ustasha ideology before the war -- hatred against Serbs and anti-Semitism, which helped the spread of genocidal policy," he added.
The education center was opened Monday along with a new permanent layout of the Jasenovac museum in an official ceremony attended by Croatian President Stipe Mesic and Prime Minister Ivo Sanader.
The memorial museum exhibits the names of about 70,000 people killed at the camp.
But the number of people murdered at Jasenovac -- mainly Serbs, followed by Jews, Roma and anti-fascist Croatians -- is still disputed, with estimates ranging between 100,000 by the US Holocaust Memorial Museum and 700,000 by Belgrade.
During his visit Zuroff met with Croatian state attorney Mladen Bajic and urged him to intensify efforts to prosecute Ustasha police chief Milovoj Asner, now living in Klagenfurt, Austria.
Vienna rejected a request by Croatia in September 2005 for Asner's extradition on the basis that he has an Austrian passport, but said it would consider trying the man itself.
Asner, 93, is accused by the Wiesenthal Centre of having participated in the persecution and deportation of hundreds of people killed in Ustasha concentration camps.
"Time is rapidly running out in this case and therefore a concentrated effort must be made by all involved parties to finally convince the Austrian authorities that there is absolutely no basis for their refusal to turn over the former police chief," Zuroff said in a statement.
Zuroff also pressed Croatia to investigate former Ustasha commander Ivo Rojnica who is living in Argentina.
That war has been over for sixty-one years now, can we move on for criminy's sake? Sorry, but it seems that some Jewish folks tend to resemble Jesse Jackson and the other people of the victimhood industry. My family is Irish and live mostly in Sligo yet there's no one calling for a museum to the deaths of so many Irish under the Brits, is there? Maybe it's because the Irish are too busy building a future to be concerned with building a past. The Jews need to stop posing as victims and stand up on their feet and act like men. The Holocaust happened, it's over, 99.9% of the people who were involved in running it are dead. It's time to declare the case closed and move on. [/rant]
I bet they miss you over at DU.
The point is, it is not enought to just point out how bad the holocaust was. One most also present it in such a light that it helps liberal politicians in the current day and age.
Up yours.
I'm proud to be insulted by someone like you.
The point of remembering the Holocaust is to prevent it from occurring again. The population of Ireland is barely 4,000,000. The number of murdered Jews: 6,000,000.
Damn right they have the right to "whine." If someone killed the entire population of Ireland + 2,000,000 more Irish and told you to "move on," how would you feel?
Peter,
And this has been the first time in the last 61 years, that Croatia actually publicly admitted that a Holocaust of these proportions even happened on their soil or that the Croat Ustashi were the culprits. It's true that about 60,000 Jews and 30,000 Gyspsies were murdered by this Croat Nazi regime -- but so were about 600,000 Serb Christians! Serbs, not Jews, were the largest number of victims -- and yet if it weren't for Jewish activism, no one would ever know about what happened here. The Jewish presence at the opening of the Jasenovac Museum wasn't a "selfish act by Jews", it was a relatively selfless one because it called attention to non-Jews as the prime victims.
Every Irishman (and American with a basic education) already knows about the "Potato Famine" in Ireland and I am old enough to remember the Irish in America soliciting money from non-Irish for "The Cause". And who could forget about "The Molly Maguires"? The Irish story is already known by virtually everyone, whether they wanted to know or not. But how many people know about the genocide of Serbs in Croatia during WWII as a fact? We know Jews were killed everywhere in Europe during WWII, but few know how many Serb civilians, including children, were massively slaughtered.
The Director of the Weisenthal Institute is right about going after the last of these murderous bastards. With few exceptions, most of these sadistic Ustashi thugs lived out their lives in comfortable freedom on the loot they stole from their victims, never being brought to justice. I am all for putting a stake through the heart of the few left, no matter how old they are.
The "stand up & be a man" speech is completely inappropriate for those who not only were persecuted during WWII just because they breathed air on planet earth, but who are also once again being persecuted for no reason in the same familiar places http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1747061/posts.
You are way off base here,Peter!
"My family is Irish and live mostly in Sligo yet there's no one calling for a museum to the deaths of so many Irish under the Brits, is there?"
A number of points here. Firstly, the Holocaust happened within living memory. I was reading the other day about a woman living in the U.S. who lost her entire family in the Holocaust - over 100 people - and all her friends. You expect her or those who are close to her to just forget. Secondly, the vast majority of Jews were murdered in a number of nations - over 90% in Poland (over 3 million people). Thirdly, the Holocaust occurred because many millions of people in Europe either collaborated or were totally indifferent to it (much like your indifference in fact). Fourthly, the Holocaust was the deliberate genocide of a people (actually, two peoples) over a number of years. To compare the fate of the Irish people during the potato famine, terrible though it was, with that of the Jews of Europe during the Holocaust demonstrates an ignorance and callousness that is truly breathtaking. Fifthly, another Holocaust is being prepared for the Jewish people as I write.
Those who wish to forget are invariably those who are really very glad the Holocaust happened in the first place. That many of their campadres collaborated in that genocide is also something that obviously also plays a part.
'Maybe it's because the Irish are too busy building a future to be concerned with building a past. The Jews need to stop posing as victims and stand up on their feet and act like men." '
The Jews are not posing as victims. They have been victims for nearly two thousand years. The Jews have not been building a future? Perhaps you haven't heard of the country we've built out of nothing; a country surrounded by enemies; a country which is in the very forefront of technological achievement (yes, Ireland has been able to drag itself out of the mire of poverty recently, but much, if not most, of that has not been because of any ingenuity but instead a very large tax dodge). Perhaps you haven't heard of the high percentage of Nobel Prizes the Jewish people have won, or the huge businesses they've created (40% of U.S. billionaires are Jewish; 40% of all large gifts to charity are made by Jews), or the professions that they now lead? When Ireland was playing at being the neutral (while really siding with the Germans) and had cut off all Jewish immigration during the Holocaust, 1.5 million Jews were fighting in the armies of the Allies and as partisans in the forests of Europe. The question should not be how we can be more like you, but how you can be more like us. With the type of manhood you have exhibited on this forum the Jewish people would have contributed little or nothing to humanity and would have died out centuries ago. As it is, we have contributed more to the world in relation to our numbers than any other single group of people. Would that you could have done the same.
Jewish Nobel Prize Winners
http://www.jinfo.org/Nobel_Prizes.html
Sorry, I am lost. "DU"? "Ducks Unlimited?" "Democratic Underground?" "Deutchland Uberalis"?
I meant the middle option. lol
Regarding the third option, I'd only note that the PLO has many sympathizers in the IRA...
The Jews in Israel are NOT victims. For 57 years anyone and everyone who has messed with them has been handed their a$$es on a silver platter. You and the jerkoff who insulted me with the DU comment don't get what I'm saying. Instead of crying and whining about the bloomin' Holocaust they need to stick to kicking the beejabbers out of anyone who dares try that kind of thing ever again. Enough of the last Holocaust, pay attention to preventing the NEXT one that morons like Jimmy Carter seem so bent on causing.
What's next? The "Ah, can't we all just get along?" speech?
It's just grand that the Croats are facing up to their past. Fine. So where will the Moscow museum be built to all of the Jews who were killed by the Russians from 1917 to 1991? Let's not forget the Jews in Nanking who were killed by the Japanese in 1937, what about that? Should that museum be built in Nanking or Tokyo?
All of this effort to accuse and rehash the Holocaust from six decades ago detracts from the Holocaust that Iran and the liberal Democrats want to get started on in six weeks when they take over Congress.
"Instead of crying and whining about the bloomin' Holocaust they need to stick to kicking the beejabbers out of anyone who dares try that kind of thing ever again"
A message from my very non-Jewish Swedish girlfriend.
"May this semi-literate jerk live long enough to see his entire family wiped out and may he be told to quit crying and whining about it."
The point is that if you think that the Jewish people have one solitary thing to learn from you or yours, then you're not only ignorant of both history and current reality but you're also more than a little bit touched.
God alone knows the kind of truly awful people who must have raised you.
Here is the direct link to the article http://www.ejpress.org/article/11980
"All of this effort to accuse and rehash the Holocaust from six decades ago detracts from the Holocaust that Iran and the liberal Democrats want to get started on in six weeks when they take over Congress."
Long after we have made peace with the Arabs, you and yours will remain forever the eternal enemy of the Jewish people.
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