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[Romney] Di$$es Mass. candidates: No such thing as commonwealth when moneybags Mitt’s stumping
Boston Herald ^ | 26 November 2006 | Emma Ratliff

Posted on 11/27/2006 4:10:07 PM PST by shrinkermd

He may be Santa to GOP politicians in the rest of the country, but when it comes to giving to Bay State Republicans, Gov. Mitt Romney is one big Grinch.

Using cash generated by his federal political action committee, Romney donated almost $190,000 to 70 Republicans in 31 states running for office in 2006, but gave Massachusetts GOP hopefuls nothing.

Bay State Republicans left out in the cold during their campaigns for U.S. Congress were Rick Barton, Jack E. Robinson and Jeff Beatty. Ditto Ken Chase, who challenged Ted Kennedy for his U.S. Senate seat.

“I am saddened and disappointed,” Chase said. “I was very active in his two campaigns for governor.”

In 2004, Romney created the Commonwealth PAC, a federal political action committee that, according its Web site, is responsible for “electing Republican candidates” and “solidifying the party’s status as America’s majority.” While Romney’s PAC doled out $192,250 to GOP candidates across the United States, Massachusetts Republicans running for federal office got zilch.

“He cut and run from the Massachusetts Republicans,” said GOP activist Jim Rappaport.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
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To: shrinkermd
The cash likely went to politicians in States with key Republican Presidential primaries. Gosh, politics is being committed, shocking!
21 posted on 11/27/2006 5:13:19 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: shrinkermd

Romney would be as well off if he burned the money as gave it to Bay State GOPers.


22 posted on 11/27/2006 5:21:02 PM PST by montag813
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To: JohnnyZ
If you lived in Massachusetts, you would understand that Rappaport is still upset over the thumping he took from Kerry Healey. He thought Romney would back him and he would be set for when Romney left office to run for Governor. Rappaport still hasn't forgiven him

By the way, I voted for Rappaport.
23 posted on 11/27/2006 5:28:40 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: Vigilanteman
I don't suppose it would be because most Massachusetts Republicans are slimy turds in the mold of Jim Jeffords and Lincoln Chafee, would it?

It's more likely that their campaigns were poor risks.

Romney was the phenomenally successful CEO of Bain Capital, one of the world's great private venture capital funds. He achieved his extraordinary success by very coolly and exactly calculating the risk of each proposal brought to him.

It isn't that he is risk averse. Nor does he always win. But he clearly isn't swayed by personal or emotional factors when weighing risk. And over the long haul he comes out significantly ahead because he manages risk wisely.

As president he could be expected to shrewdly and decisively make fiscal policy and budgetary decisions based on hard evidence and sound business principles given the constraints he must operate within. He has world class business and economic sense and is quite possibly the most gifted pro-business presidential candidate in the past 100 years.

Giuliani? A former prosecuting attorney. Most of what he knows about business is what he learned while prosecuting the Mafia and white-collar crime in New York City. McCain? A former jet jockey, prisoner of war, and now full-time lawmaker. He's read articles about business but probably couldn't tell a balance sheet from a balance beam. Gingrich? A college professor--and not in a B-School either.

What these Massachusetts GOPers are doing is complaining that Romney didn't engage in pork barrell-style distributions of campaign funds based on subjective factors. If they had been more competitive or could have been made competitive, Romney likely would have spent money on them. They likely weren't, so he didn't.

It would be a delightful breath of fresh air to have a president who truly understands business and who wouldn't allow cronyism, personal friendship, or mere politics to drive his decisions on how taxpayer money is spent or invested.

24 posted on 11/27/2006 5:30:55 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: shrinkermd

This guy is getting way to much ink. He can't win, period. If he can, we are worse off than I thought.

I saw on an earlier thread how a conservative President and congress will turn everything around in 08. I wondered where we might locate such a candidate.

I am basically optimistic in my world view, but I gotta confess, it looks like it's going to get worse than we thought before it gets better. Hope I'm wrong again.


25 posted on 11/27/2006 5:33:40 PM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: shrinkermd

He's a phony.


26 posted on 11/27/2006 5:34:00 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: JCEccles
If they had been more competitive or could have been made competitive, Romney likely would have spent money on them. They likely weren't, so he didn't.

The only problem with your fairy tale theory is that Mitt DID invest in a whole bunch of losers in 2004. So much for his keen assessment of risk. In 2006, he didn't invest in Massachusetts, but he did invest nationally -- in winners, losers? doesn't really matter, because he was really investing in himself and his own run for president.

27 posted on 11/27/2006 5:35:32 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: JRochelle
Teddy Kennedy has a rather skitzophrenic position on Abortion. He opposed Bork as a right-wing extremist that would cause women to die of illegal abortions. Yet he answers Position Tests saying he supports Abortion only when the life is threatened, or in the cases of race and incest. Then he accepts the endorsement of NARAL ever six years while Mass Citizens for Life refuses to endorse him (and endorsed Romney in 1994). He once was openly Pro-Life and then after Roe v. Wade he issued a policy paper declaring himself Pro-Choice. I frankly am confused, though it may be his intention.

As for Durbin, I think he clearly went from Pro-Life to Pro-Choice. Romney has been trending the other direction, and at the time of 2002 was probably more Pro-Life then Durbin is today. But thats just my opinion.
28 posted on 11/27/2006 5:39:30 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: MassachusettsGOP

Dear MassachusettsGOP,

"By his 2002 Governor's race, he declared himself personally Pro-Life, but would Govern with a moratorium on changing Abortion laws as Massachusetts is 70% Pro-Choice."

That's not the whole truth.

In the 2002 gubernatorial race, he also affirmed in an answer to a Planned Parenthood questionnaire that he believed in the substance of the ruling Roe vs. Wade, that abortion is a constitutional right. During the 2002 campaign, he also affirmed that he believed that it was right for government to fund abortions of poor women.

The Massachusetts pro-abort Republican organization endorsed him.

That's still pretty darned pro-abort.

It seems that he's pro-abort as long as he's running for office in [pro-abort] Massachusetts, but is pro-life now that he wants to run for the presidency as the nominee of the [pro-life] Republican Party.

Seems more like opportunism than anything.


sitetest


29 posted on 11/27/2006 5:43:26 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: JohnnyZ

Dear JohnnyZ,

"In 2006, he didn't invest in Massachusetts, but he did invest nationally -- in winners, losers? doesn't really matter, because he was really investing in himself and his own run for president."

Are you suggesting that Gov. Romney might be acting... CYNICALLY???

My word! How could you think such a thing??


sitetest


30 posted on 11/27/2006 6:01:37 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: shrinkermd

No surprise to some of us here in California,, or as it should be re-named, West Massachusetts.


31 posted on 11/27/2006 6:19:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: sitetest
"During the 2002 campaign, he also affirmed that he believed that it was right for government to fund abortions of poor women."

Thats total rubbish, even in 1994 he stated that he opposed government funding of abortions.

"Pro-life advocates said he was preferable to Kennedy if only because he opposed taxpayer funding for abortions and supported pro-life laws like parental notification."

http://www.lifenews.com/nat2036.html
32 posted on 11/27/2006 6:20:52 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: sitetest
Are you suggesting that Gov. Romney might be acting... CYNICALLY???

Of course not!!!

I would never level such an accusation!

No, *I* am the cynical one, refusing to pledge my sword to the white knight of conservatism who has been defending our way of life by single-handedly battling the gaydrons of liberal Massachusetts, just because every one of his actions reeks of slimy opportunistic deceitful pandering.

33 posted on 11/27/2006 6:25:15 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: MassachusettsGOP; JRochelle; sitetest
I frankly am confused, though it may be his intention.

It takes a special kind of person to ramble on for a paragraph wondering if the Swimmer is pro-life or pro-abortion.

34 posted on 11/27/2006 6:29:49 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: JohnnyZ

Isnt it funny how Kennedy tries to hold onto the last threads of his Catholic past while pandering to the Liberal Democrats?


35 posted on 11/27/2006 6:42:40 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: MassachusettsGOP; JohnnyZ; Reagan Man

Dear MassachusettsGOP,

"Thats total rubbish, even in 1994 he stated that he opposed government funding of abortions."

You might be right. At least once or twice. It's hard to keep track of Mr. Romney's pronounced positions on issues.

A quick look shows that at some point in 2002, he apparently backed state choice on Medicaid funding of abortion, which is not the same as backing state funding. However, his running mate in 2002 assured the public that there wasn't a "dime's worth of difference" between Mr. Romney's abortion position and the Democrat candidate's position.

Which seems to suggest significant amounts of talking out of both sides of one's mouth.

I also note that you let pass this exchange between us:




"By his 2002 Governor's race, he declared himself personally Pro-Life, but would Govern with a moratorium on changing Abortion laws as Massachusetts is 70% Pro-Choice."

That's not the whole truth.

In the 2002 gubernatorial race, he also affirmed in an answer to a Planned Parenthood questionnaire that he believed in the substance of the ruling Roe vs. Wade, that abortion is a constitutional right.




Thus, Mr. Romney, in 2002, was not pro-life by any stretch of the imagination. He still held firmly to the substance of Roe, which, with its companion piece Doe v. Bolton, pretty much requires abortion on demand throughout the 50 states.

That's not a pro-life position.

To say it is is to promote another falsehood.

I've pinged a couple of gentlemen who might be able to identify, document, and elucidate the meandering opinions of Mr. Romney on government funding of abortion.


sitetest


36 posted on 11/28/2006 6:34:21 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
I am not really familiar with this this Planned Parenthood questionnaire, though I have read about it before. However, I have never heard him try to explain it, nor anybody try to explain it except in the context of an editorial trying to paint Romney as merely a slick politician. I don't know the full story behind it. It could be a contradiction that makes his position seems fishier, but I will not make a judgment on it until I have heard both sides. You may not be as slow to judge, and thats fine.

But I know for a fact, he campaigned for a Moratorium on the Change of Abortion laws as Governor, and described himself as personally Pro-Life. This wasn't even a necessarily popular opinion. Shannon O'Brien, his opponent, tried to use it against him in the Debates labeling even this very Moderate/Liberal Republican opinion as Right-wing extremism. I also know for a fact that Romney has kept his promise, he vetoed the Emergency "Contraception" bill of July 2005, and vetoed the legislature's proposed State funding for the cloning of Human embryos in May of 2005.

As for Kerry Healey, she is a certified Pro-Abortion Republican. And she has stated that she disagrees with a number of Mitt Romney's Abortion positions. She campaigned as openly Pro-Choice, Romney did not in 2002.
37 posted on 11/28/2006 2:55:00 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: MassachusettsGOP

Dear MassachusettsGOP,

As I'm a Catholic, many of my relatives and friends are Democrats.

For Catholics whose Catholic identity is strong, things like low taxes, individualism, making lots of money, don't necessarily rate high on the list of important values, or translate into important political principles. Thus, much of the Republican agenda is lost on these folks.

At times, the political discussions I've had with these relatives and friends has been heated. They accuse me of various things, being a greedy capitalist (guilty), being a warmonger (guilty, if that means bashing the brains out those who would attack us), etc.

Of course, as devout, reasonably conservative Catholics, my ultimate comeback is to call them supporters of baby-killers. Among devout, obedient Catholics, the accusation that one supports pro-abort politicians cuts to the bone.

Since Mario Cuomo announced in the 1980s that he was personally pro-life, but wouldn't let his own principles interfere with the "majority" view that abortion should be legal, many Catholic Democrats have tried to take refuge in the "personally pro-life, but..." scam.

For over two decades, I've taken after Democrats pretty harshly for the hypocritical, lying stance of "personally pro-life but..." I've excoriated friends and relatives for supporting such monsters. I've actually gotten a few to see the light, and vote Republican. But that's PRO-LIFE Republican.

And what I condemned in the likes of Mario Cuomo and others, I won't hesitate to condemn in the likes of Mitt Romney and other baby-killing Republicans.

Either you're adamantly for protecting the lives of unborn children in law, or you're not. I don't really give a good damn if you think of yourself as "personally pro-life, but..." That's a stinking lie, an attempt to have it both ways.

I have nothing but contempt and disgust for politicians who do that.

If a politicians wants to be in favor of legal baby-killing, he should have some balls and admit that he's a baby-killing bastard. That's one big point in favor of Mr. Giuliani. He's a baby-killing bastard and is pretty forthright about it. Good for him! It's quite easy for me to make my choice never to vote for the man for president, but I admire him for his forthright position.

He believes in Roe.

He believes in a constitutional right to abortion.

He believes in government funding of poor women's abortions.

He believes that partial birth abortion should be legal.

He doesn't dwell on some stupid, lying, hypocritical thesis that he's really pro-life, but...

I preferred Gov. Romney when he was an honest baby-killer. I preferred when he said that he's been a baby-killer since at least 1970, and that it's a matter of principle. I'd never vote for him for president, but at least he was an honest and decent baby-killer. Or so it seemed.

But this crap about "personally pro-life but..." is nothing but an attempt to hoodwink pro-lifers.

I've seen this for over 20 years among Catholic Democrats. I've seen how much they wanted to vote for folks who much more closely represented their own economic and foreign policy views, and how desperately they wanted to justify voting for pro-aborts, and how much they wanted to swallow the lying line of "personally pro-life but..."

I won't be fooled like them. I won't indulge myself in the actions that I condemn on their part.

It is sickening to me to see Republicans falling for the same lies.


sitetest


38 posted on 11/28/2006 3:42:40 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Fair enough, Good Luck.


39 posted on 11/28/2006 4:40:31 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: sitetest; MassachusettsGOP
I am Mormon. My mother raised me Democrat. She once said Reagen was the worst president we ever had and about flipped when my dad told her he was voting for him. She was President of the League of Women Voters in our State. She would repeat the line you talked about "being personally against abortion but for women being able to choose." Thankfully, I saw the light and converted fully to Conservatism (Mormon teachings helped a lot on that). I love my mom and she was a Christlike person, but politically I think she was decieved and fell for the feminist lies. Matt 24:24 "... insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect"

Anyway the real question is whether Romney saw the light like I did. I find it interesteing that he used to believe what his mother taught him about abortion. And seemingly has changed his tune. It mirrors my story.

IOW, is it Romney a true convert? I'm not sure how conservative he really is. You've been burned before so I understand your sensitivity. But I am still open to the possiblity that he could change to pro-life and really mean it, politics aside. It happened to me.

40 posted on 11/29/2006 6:03:23 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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