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Poland suggests Russia may have falsified documents in meat spat
International Herald Tribune ^ | November 25, 2006

Posted on 11/25/2006 9:14:06 AM PST by lizol

Poland suggests Russia may have falsified documents in meat spat

Published: November 25, 2006

WARSAW, Poland: Poland's justice minister suggested Saturday that Russia may have been behind forged documents accompanying Polish meat exports, the discovery of which led to a ban on Polish products.

Zbigniew Ziobro said the documents appeared to have been falsified outside Poland by people accustomed to the Cyrillic alphabet.

The Polish-Russian trade dispute has swelled into a larger standoff between Russia and the European Union.

Russia claims that Poland tried to get substandard meat onto the Russian market using fake health documents. Poland agrees that the documents were forged but claims that the meat was safe.

Russia imposed the ban on the Polish imports over a year ago. It says that Polish meat fails to meet health standards, and that Poland tried to get it to the Russian market with the falsified documents.

But Ziobro told Poland's PAP news agency that Polish meat is up to standard, and that prosecutors have evidence veterinary certificates testifying to their safety were falsified outside Poland to make the meat appear unsafe.

Ziobro said prosecutors in the southeastern Polish city of Tarnow have proven during a yearlong investigation that the documents were falsified by "somebody who on a day-to-day basis uses the Cyrillic alphabet," the script used in Russia and some other Slavic countries. He did not elaborate on how that was clear.

Poland uses the Latin alphabet.

Russian accusations that Poland tried to send meat to Russia backed up by falsified documents "have no basis in fact," Ziobro was quoted as saying.

"The certificates weren't even produced at the Polish Security Printing Works," Ziobro added, referring to the government's producer of official documents. They "were on a different paper."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: eu; europe; neosoviet; poland; putin; russia

1 posted on 11/25/2006 9:14:10 AM PST by lizol
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To: quesney; Brad's Gramma; OriginalChristian; Huber; Think free or die; 4Freedom; norton; ...
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FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

2 posted on 11/25/2006 9:17:00 AM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol; Brad's Gramma
Sounds like someone in Russia ordered the brand new
Dan Rather School of Forgery Mail Order Course.

3 posted on 11/25/2006 9:37:54 AM PST by bd476
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To: lizol
lizol, I see you are posting this nonsense again. I previously worked as an assistant transportation manager for Swift and Company meat packers, and I am very familiar with health certificates. If there is even the "slightest" problem or question with the certificates or if the meat inspectors' white gloves have any markings inside the trucks or boxcars the entire shipment is destroyed. Your statement regarding Russian forgery is total nonsense. The inspectors would not say anything about one crate, one truckload, but they would complain loudly if there were numerous instances of such violations. Furhtermore, it is the responsibility of the shipper to make CERTAIN the certificate and shipment is perfect. If the shipment and certificates were not from Poland, and are Russian forgeries then why are they complaining?
4 posted on 11/25/2006 9:52:32 AM PST by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc

Asking me????


5 posted on 11/25/2006 10:24:40 AM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: GarySpFc
"If the shipment and certificates were not from Poland, and are Russian forgeries then why are they complaining?"


6 posted on 11/25/2006 10:29:27 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
Grzegorz, why are you laughing? You couldn't tell the difference between a dog license and a health certificate
7 posted on 11/25/2006 10:40:06 AM PST by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc

I don't understand why you view this as nonsense. If the Russian government is capable of poisoning people in Britain, they would surely be capable of forging meat inspection documents to try to take a hit at Poland.


8 posted on 11/25/2006 11:18:25 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: Malesherbes

Health certificates for food are very precisely written. If there were only one or two cases the meat would have been destroyed and nothing much would have been said. It happens frequently. However, there apparently have been several cases, and the Russians would not complain on this unless they have the evidence in the certificates and samples of the meat to provide the EU.


9 posted on 11/25/2006 12:02:53 PM PST by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc; Malesherbes

If you considered Russia as any other country - you'd be right Gary.

But it's not.

It's the putinist Russia.


10 posted on 11/25/2006 3:49:32 PM PST by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: Malesherbes

There is nothing dirtier than a meat fight.


11 posted on 11/25/2006 3:51:07 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / Giuliani 2008)
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To: lizol
"lizol, I see you are posting this nonsense again." since it is never approved by Moscow. This must stop! The pre-approved Putin line of the hour (used to be the day) must be observed at all times :)(sarc)


12 posted on 11/25/2006 5:32:39 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

ROFL!! Your posts are so good I might have to start looking for them.


13 posted on 11/25/2006 7:40:10 PM PST by MarMema
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To: lizol

Just for the record I always believed that all of the supposed bad food, wine, mineral water, snails, whatever, was all a bunch of lies.


14 posted on 11/25/2006 7:41:38 PM PST by MarMema
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To: bd476

I don't know,..those Polonium certificates are pretty hard to forge.


15 posted on 11/25/2006 7:44:14 PM PST by Cvengr
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