Turkey: Sales of Pope Murder Book Soar Ahead of Benedict XVI's Visit

ADNKI ^ | November 23, 2006 | Vah/Aki

[presidio9]

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[Churchillspirit]

Lighten up!

The book in question is FICTION!!

[NeoCaveman]

Is it outselling Mein Kamph yet?

[monday]

more proof, if any is needed, of Muslim insanity.

[presidio9]

Knowing what the Vatican turned their heads to in WW2 and what was happening with Jews..

Don't go down that road with me buddy. That's a liberal myth perpetuated by those who hate the Catholic Church for other reasons, but see this as one of the best means of discrediting it. It is believed by those who confuse the Pope for a political leader, instead of a spiritual one. Pope Pius XII didn't have an army, and he was situated in the middle of a fascist allied country. His hand was not completely free. Catholicism was savagely perseucted in Germany and Eastern Europe, and in Spain during their own facist experience. That being said, after the war his efforts were widely credited for saving over one million Jews by Holocaust survivors and Isreali diplomats, including Albert Einstein and Golda Meir. You've been misinformed and are barking up the wrong tree with that one.

[presidio9]

Lighten up!

Is not much of a comeback. I take that to mean you have no idea what you're talking about.

[rjp2005]

It's not his role to be critical of a religion in it's entirety, no matter the flaws. He's our political leader - not the Holy Father. Besides, the President has to walk the tightrope given to him - including fighting Islamic militants while at the same time maintaining good relationships with allied Islamic countries.

[trisham]

On Wednesday police used tear-gas to break up a protest against Benedict XVI by a group of ultra-nationalist Turks in Istanbul's symbolic Hagia Sophia.

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I suspect this kind of incident will increase over the next week. Pope Benedict is a brave man.

[trisham]

Don't go down that road with me buddy. That's a liberal myth perpetuated by those who hate the Catholic Church for other reasons, but see this as one of the best means of discrediting it

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Exactly right. How many times have we seen this tired old charge made on these threads?

After a while, it's a toss-up as to whether it's annoying or laughable.

[presidio9]

a group of ultra-nationalist Turks in Istanbul's symbolic Hagia Sophia.

And, of course Hagia Sophia was chosen for it's symbolic meaning. This greatest of all Eastern Cathedrals was converted into a mosque when Istanbul fell in 1453.

[presidio9]

And, of course, they plan on the same sort of redcoration for Saint Peter's at some future date.

[trisham]

It's beautiful. What a shame.

[trisham]

And, of course, they plan on the same sort of redcoration for Saint Peter's at some future date.

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I'm sure you're right. There are some whose hatred seems to have no bounds.

[livius]

Religion was persecuted in Spain by the Communists and anarchists, not by the fascists (Franco's party). Incidentally, after the Spanish Civil War, under Franco, Spain took in more Jews than just about any other country. Franco believed that they were the people of Jesus Christ and that therefore they were our people, too, and they deserved protection. And guess who said, "we are all spiritually Semites": Pius XII. This was basically Franco's inspiration.

[CottShop]

Well isn't that special? The Muslims should be downright proud about this- a minority of extremists hijacking their religion while they sit back and do NOTHING to counter the perception that Islam is turning into a religion of hate and putrid vile! http://sacredscoop.com

[crymeariver]

Knowing what the Vatican turned their heads to in WW2 and what was happening with Jews..I mean there is only so much one can take hearing in the way of excuses and theology.

It is far more complicated than that regarding WW2. The Vatican actually did quite a bit during the war in Italy. In fact, the Italian government with the help of the Vatican is credited in saving most Italian Jews lives through a complex series of census taking, numbers juggling, and protection strategies. Google Dorothy Rabinowitz and her research work regarding this.

[Global2010]

tinfoil hat book jmo

[Maeve]

Very nice to see a photo of Hagia Sophia without minarets.

[Maeve]

I'm glad you are Catholic, but you have to better educate yourself. Your information on World War II is completely wrong, and it is shocking that a Catholic would buy into the lie instead of listening to what Jews have to say about Pope Pius XII incredible work to save so many Jews.

For Christmas you might get these titles to read and read them during the course of 2007:

1. Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church
2. Triumph by H.W. Crocker
3. Theology and Sanity by Frank Sheed

And I would recommend looking into critical articles that sift through the fiction regarding the Vatican, Hitler, and the War. The person Hitler hated most was Pope Pius XII, and Hitler planned to kill all Catholic priests once he was victorious in the war.