Posted on 11/24/2006 5:28:09 AM PST by bushfamfan
I just want to have a thread to discuss House Rep. Duncan Hunter who is going to be one of our GOP nominees. Seems as if a lot of people on FR are complaining about our choices for 2008 when this great man is going to be in the race as well. I just think he needs to get some coverage and wanted to start this thread.
He is the man conservatives should get behind and I think he deserves his own thread to remind us that we do have a great candidate this time if we'd only realize it.
http://www.house.gov/hunter/
VP and lost, yes. Geraldine Farraro.
VP and won, kinda. Former Congressman George H.W. Bush under Reagan. But he had been NRC chair, CIA Director, and U.N. Ambassador since being a Congressman.
Is that you, Rove?
The last election turned out so well for us based on that theory! LOL!
I agree on his overall record, I'm just pointing out that he ran a lobbying firm, and regardless of how ethical he was in his lobbying, that would be poison in the current environment. It would be very difficult to overcome that.
But as you pointed out, he's not running, so it's academic.
Seeming as how Republicans turned out in roughly equal %'s in 2002 and 2004, and we lost independends in record numbers, yes, the theory did work out rather well.
Have you noticed how the same open border minority posters are the very same ones that just can't stand the thought of Duncan Hunter? Pretty obvious what is going on here.
The 'if' was merely rhetorical, and hence yours is a comprehension issue, where you were baldly stating, by clear implication, oppostion to the exampled GOOD CANDIDATES so that you could schill, evidently, for BAD CANDIDATES hand-picked by our enemies in the MSM....
Luckily for me, idiots like you don't get to make that judgement.
Actually, I do here in Minnesota, and if I am sent to our convention...which btw is right here...you can bet I will make my voice heard over the MSM static.
But it appears you would rather demean and slam the 50 million republicans who think differently from you? Let's hope you're wrong. We sure don't need another Bush or his ideological Clone thereto...such as McCain or Giuliani...who are even further to the Left!
Umm, no it's not, and no it's not.
You're an idiot.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
False. That is a simplistic talking point which is not vindicated in a number of particulars. Those independents walked because of the stench of corruption. The ones that hung in were voting explicitly against people who expressed OBL support. They lost by 4-to-1 over the Border Defense crow. We did lose 6 good congressment. But in every case, they lost to RATs who at least PRETENDED to be against Amnesty and the OBL.
If they hadn't done that...the "independents" would likely have stayed with the Republican candidates.
While I disagree with Hunter's anti-immigration stance, that's not my objection. My objection is that he's a porker, that he's clearly got dellusions of grandure, and that he can't win.
If we were discussing Jeff Sessions, while I would still have issues with his electability, I'd be a lot more ready to listen, because he's not a self-aggrandizing idiot and he's more electable then Hunter.
Bump. Agreed.
And they are apparently of incapable of doing anything other than lie about their own position. And when busted on it...they have no substantive argument...so they simply call names.
So...you were wrong and I was right. You just want to add some caviats to explain it.
That's fine, and your explaination may be correct, it may not be. But it's just that, and explaination. You were spinning and got caught.
And who said anything about borders up to that point anyway?
If Duncan Hunter's recommendations had been followed in weapons procurement, we would be saving money per unit. And we would be saving taxpayer money that is now flowing overseas. Which McCain wants to increase.
...that he's clearly got dellusions of grandure, and that he can't win.
The RINOs said the same thing about Reagan.
Flat out false. Graf's opponent was in favor of guest workers and earned citizenship.
Duncan Hunter:
One trick pony.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
Is there a "pattern" here? LOL! It's great to watch!! You can anticipate the insults and just like clock work they come, day after day, month after month, kinda like the thousands of illegal aliens pouring in. Well, at least they're "consistent".
Sorry Charlie. Not in this universe. You don't get any Mulligans.
You just want to add some caviats to explain it.
That's spelled 'caveats' and no...that was not actually a caveat...
Hence, it was you "Spinning and got caught."
Ah! The reverse name-calling defence. My guy is just like Reagan, therefore, since Reagan was good/electable/in favor of X policy, you are either for me, or against Reagan.
Problem is, the guy is never really like Reagan, the policy is usually not like Reagan, and the arguement is therefore meaningless. It's a tactic for the intellectually bankrupt who have run out of arguments.
I was listening to Neal Boortz for a while this afternoon, he read a survery result that indicates onlu 8.8% of the population is conservative, 14% is liberal and 32% consider themselves libertarians. These are numbers to consider when we say only a far right conservative can win in 2008.
The Democrats are well aware they need a candiate who can deliver this intangible quality, and they are worried about getting bogged down in a Clinton vs. Gore power struggle. That's why the sudden uptick in "Obama the Savior" propaganda. On the Republican side, Romney has more of this quality than any of the names mentioned so far. Giuliani and McCain have enough of it to win the nomination, if they take the lead. Newt, Hunter, Allen, and the Southern Governors have no shot - no matter how ideologiaclly pure and pleasing they are to FR memeberts.
The Republican who best exemplifies this quality - at nearly Reaganesque levels - is ineligible to run: Arnold Schwarzenegger. He would take California and possibly New York and pile up over 400 electoral votes, and there is no other Republican who could come close to that total. Thus, "Who Will Arnold Endorse?" is going to become a major theme as November, 2008 draws near - because that endorsement might be enough to put the endorsee over the top.
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