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1 posted on 11/22/2006 11:33:49 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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Good...it's about time they revise laws that support criminals over decent law abiding citizens/subjects.
2 posted on 11/22/2006 11:36:14 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: kiriath_jearim; y'all

The Proper Role of Government [in self defense]
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3 posted on 11/22/2006 11:55:27 AM PST by tpaine
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Lots of good home defense advice here on FR for the Irish to review!


4 posted on 11/22/2006 11:59:23 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Unlike the retarded British MP Stephen Pound the Irish are smart enough to know that self defence is not "barbaric". Surely, though, this common sense discussion will be the source of endless condemnation in the British MSM.
5 posted on 11/22/2006 12:02:58 PM PST by PeterFinn (Support the Troops by supporting their mission.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
necessity and proportionality of force used to justify a killing.
"necessity and proportionality" This could be a problem if interpreted as is done in England. For example an unproportional response if "he had a stick" and "you used a knife". Not saying it's right. Just seen it argued by anti-self defense Brits.
8 posted on 11/22/2006 1:16:10 PM PST by SWO
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To: kiriath_jearim
I would expect a self defense law to have as its basis that "you don't go beyond what is necessary to defend yourself".

For example if a person breaks into your house and he has a weapon (knife gun club etc) and you shoot him, and he falls down incapacitated, and is no longer a threat, you should be in good stead. But if you go over and shoot him again, you might have gone too far. - tom

10 posted on 11/22/2006 1:32:35 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: kiriath_jearim

There is law, and there is "THE LAW", the one that has existed since before the invention, of any government, by men. Defense of family, friends, then myself, then property, is something I WILL undertake, without wasting time on legal nuance. I am not likely to dial 911, and wait, for government instructions.
One thing I count on is that the UK will screw up on this issue, once again, rather than allow anyone, to ever suspect, that they can survive, without the wisdom and protection of the King! I know why all my European ancestors got kicked out, and over here, they got fed up with all the old world crap!


11 posted on 11/22/2006 1:42:00 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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Exactly what is the problem with this concept of defending one's home and family?
I would be interested in hearing a rational explanation of a diverse viewpoint.
16 posted on 11/22/2006 2:06:31 PM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
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