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Normalizing Pedophilia Continues: UK Police Chief Says 13-Year-Old in Porn Not Child Porn
LifeSiteNews ^ | 11/20/06 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 11/20/2006 4:26:57 PM PST by wagglebee

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He added: "I don't actually personally adhere to the 15-year-old being with a 20-year-old boyfriend being paedophilia, or even if the boyfriend is 30."

In other words, sex with children doesn't offend him at all.

1 posted on 11/20/2006 4:26:59 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 11/20/2006 4:27:26 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee; MadIvan

Interesting how once the age of consent for homosexual sex was lowered to 16 which is the same age as for heterosexual sex, the police now want to lower the age for the definition of child porn even lower.


3 posted on 11/20/2006 4:30:49 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: wagglebee
It's hard to imagine he would feel this way if he has kids at or about that age. He should have no problem prostituting his kids if he truly believes what he says.
4 posted on 11/20/2006 4:32:37 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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He added: "I don't actually personally adhere to the 15-year-old being with a 20-year-old boyfriend being paedophilia, or even if the boyfriend is 30."

Plenty of our ancestors thought the same thing. My family tree includes many 14 and 15 year old wives of older men, and so does everybody else's if they bother to research it.

I think it is legitimate to recognize that hebephilia (sexual behavior with post-pubescent adolescents under 18) is different from pedophilia (sexual behavior with pre-pubescent children). Both should be illegal, but one is qualitatively worse than the other and should be punished as such.

-ccm

5 posted on 11/20/2006 4:33:41 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

If the age of consent in England is 16 (or even lower), and they have legal gay marriage there, will the old queens be able to marry their underage boy toys?


6 posted on 11/20/2006 4:34:15 PM PST by Argus
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To: wagglebee

"I can name that tune in 16 notes."

"13."

"Oh yeah? I can name that tune in 12 notes."

"11."

"Why stop there? Eight notes."


7 posted on 11/20/2006 4:37:15 PM PST by pogo101
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To: ccmay

As civilization changes, laws change with it. We would not try to apply the logic that our ancestors had a very different attitude than ours toward slavery, why should this be different?


8 posted on 11/20/2006 4:41:17 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
There's a difference between statutory rape and pedophilia. Sex with a fifteen year old is not pedophilia; unfortunately, some of these dopes don't think it's any kind of crime, either.

I have a relative who got pregnant at thirteen by an eighteen year old. Problem was, he really did not know that she was thirteen. She told him she was sixeen. That's not pedophilia, either. That's....well...that's confusing. I wouldn't have prosecuted him. Her parents didn't, either. Amazingly, they both proved to be excellent parents. They are grandparents, now!

9 posted on 11/20/2006 4:42:13 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Argus
If the age of consent in England is 16 (or even lower), and they have legal gay marriage there, will the old queens be able to marry their underage boy toys?

Leftists are just preparing the ground for the Islamists to take over. The lack of any moral authority will cause future generations to seek out phlilosophies and religions that provide a moral code. Also with the demographic collapse of native Europeans, the Muslims won't have much trouble forcing the remnants of native European population to convert.

10 posted on 11/20/2006 4:43:19 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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I think it is legitimate to recognize that hebephilia (sexual behavior with post-pubescent adolescents under 18) is different from pedophilia (sexual behavior with pre-pubescent children). Both should be illegal, but one is qualitatively worse than the other and should be punished as such.

You ain't tryin' to bring reason to this here thread, are yuh, boy?

11 posted on 11/20/2006 4:47:40 PM PST by null and void (<---- Food motivated. Easily trained)
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Leftists are just preparing the ground for the Islamists to take over. The lack of any moral authority will cause future generations to seek out phlilosophies and religions that provide a moral code.

The victims of ultra liberalism will start to cry out for retribution.
I think you're right.

12 posted on 11/20/2006 4:47:51 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: Texas_shutterbug

I agree that there is a "fine line" between pedophilia and statutory rape; however, what about saying that pornography with a 13 year old isn't child porn?


13 posted on 11/20/2006 4:51:05 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

In the Netherlands, 82% said something must be done to stop the agenda of the pedophilia party. WHAT ABOUT THE 18% THAT DOESN'T THINK SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE? How did even 18% become is desensitized?


14 posted on 11/20/2006 4:51:13 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I imagine you will agree the first thing the Isalamists will do is kill the 'queens' ( and their boyfriends, whatever). As for pedophilic behavior, there is great debate over the age of Mohammed's wife.

"Numerous people have said that Mohammed had sex with his youngest wife, ‘Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr, when he was about 53 and she was only nine years old."
......
"In Iran as of June 2002 it is legal for a 9 year old girl to marry with her parents’ permission. "
......
http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm


15 posted on 11/20/2006 4:51:49 PM PST by gb63
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To: Paleo Conservative

Muslims have never had a problem with pedophilia, starting with Mad Mo and his 9 year old "wife." The sexual use of young boys by adult men, often those in their own family, is a well established custom in most ME countries.

Personally, I think that one of the things that is actually loosening Western laws against pedophilia is the influence of Islam. Remember, British "bohemians" in the early part of the 20th century used to have second homes in Morocco or other Muslim countries mostly for the purpose of enjoying all the hash and young boys they could get.


16 posted on 11/20/2006 4:53:50 PM PST by livius
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That guy should NOT be in charge of child protection.


17 posted on 11/20/2006 4:58:15 PM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: livius
Remember, British "bohemians" in the early part of the 20th century
used to have second homes in Morocco or other Muslim countries
mostly for the purpose of enjoying all the hash and young boys
they could get.


Friendly question...
Were there any leading names of English society that followed that
lifestyle?

As a product of public schools, I didn't get much depth on
modern (1900's) English lit/culture. But I do seem to vaguely recall
that in PBS's presentation of "Brideshead Revisited", one of the
protagonist's friends ended up in a mess similar to what you
have discribed (only his boyfriend was "of age").
18 posted on 11/20/2006 5:14:23 PM PST by VOA
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To: wagglebee

That is revolting.


19 posted on 11/20/2006 5:16:30 PM PST by Chewie84
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To: wagglebee
I have some minerals and trace elements. I intend to spread them on a farming field. In three years, three months, they will be eaten by a fellow and used to manufacture sperm. Then he will impregnate his girl.

If I have sex with the elements and minerals, did I just have sex with someone who was negative-four years old?

20 posted on 11/20/2006 5:21:08 PM PST by Lazamataz (Thats the spirit.)
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