Posted on 11/20/2006 4:25:28 AM PST by goldstategop
If todays Catholic bishops lived during the Nuremberg trials, they would have condemned the execution of nine of the defendants including Ernst Kaltenbrunner and Hans Frank. Kaltenbrunner was responsible for mass executions of civilians and prisoners of war as Heinrich Himmlers chief SS lieutenant; Frank oversaw the Nazis numerous atrocities as the governor of occupied Poland.
Such a presumptuous proposition seems plausible given two Vatican officials opposition to Saddam Husseins death sentence and the Catholic Churchs moral revisionism concerning capital punishment.
Iraqs High Tribunal convicted Saddam of committing crimes against humanity and sentenced him to death on Nov. 5. Reaction from the Vatican was swift.
For me, punishing a crime with another crime which is what killing for vindication is would mean that we are still at the point of demanding an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Peace and Justice, told the Italian news agency ANSA.
God has given us life and only God can take it away, Martino continued. Life is a gift that the Lord has given us, and we must protect it from conception until natural death. The death sentence is not a natural death.
Martino is the same man who expressed public sympathy for Saddam upon his capture and whom veteran Vatican journalist Sandro Magister called a cardinal out of control. Yet Martino is not alone in his sentiments.
Certainly, the situation in Iraq will not be resolved by this death sentence. Many Catholics, myself included, are against the death penalty as a matter of principle, Father Michele Simone, deputy director of the Vatican magazine Civilita Cattolica, told Vatican radio.
Even in a situation like Iraq, where there are hundreds of de facto death sentences every day, adding another death to this toll will not serve anything, Simone added. But saving a life which does not mean accepting everything that Saddam Hussein has done is always something positive.
Perhaps Simone and Martino need to be reminded of what the phrase crimes against humanity means in Saddams case.
From 1977 to 1987, Saddam destroyed between 4,000 and 5,000 Kurdish villages and killed nearly 50,000 Kurds. During the following two years, Saddam murdered almost 100,000 Kurds many of them through chemical weapons.
Perhaps the single most devastating attack took place in March 1988, when Iraqs air force bombed the Kurdish town of Halabja for three days with various chemical weapons, including mustard gas and sarin. At least 5,000 of Halabjas 80,000 residents died within hours. Those who survived the initial attack would die later or would experience, as the United States State Department reported in 2002, staggering rates of aggressive cancer, genetic mutation, neurological damage and psychiatric disorders.
Saddam did not confine his brutality to Kurds. After invading Kuwait in 1990, Saddam established at least two dozen torture centers in Kuwait City alone. As the State Department reported, photographic evidence confirms reports of electric shocks, acid baths, summary execution and the use of electric drills to penetrate a victims body.
Other forms of torture used in Iraq included crucifixion, rape in front of the victims spouse and mutilation by gouging out eyes, nailing tongues to wooden boards and amputating penises and female breasts with electric carving knives.
No wonder the United Nations Commission on Human Rights condemned Iraq in 2001 for widespread, systematic torture and the maintaining of decrees prescribing cruel and inhuman punishment as a penalty for offenses.
No wonder Jimmy Akin, a popular Catholic apologist and blogger, reacted with disgust to Martinos and Simones views:
This is the kind of sloppy language on social topics that regularly comes from some European churchmen .If someone is himself a murderer, then killing him would seem to amount not to a crime but to justice i.e., rendering unto the person according to his merits .If you've got someone dead to rights, like Saddam, who clearly committed crimes against humanity then the act of putting him to death is intrinsically an act of justice This is something that the head of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace ought to understand .In any event, these are statements unworthy of responsible churchmen.
Yet Kevin Miller, professor of theology at Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio, begged to differ.
I see that the Vatican has protested the sentence, and rightly so, Miller wrote Nov. 8 in commenting on another blog. Would it be just to hang Saddam for his crimes? Absolutely. But the Church teaches that this criterion, while necessary, isnt sufficient.
Such confusion is the logical consequence of Pope John Paul IIs arbitrary attempt to reverse centuries of Catholic teaching about capital punishment.
In his 1995 encyclical, Evangelium vitae (The Gospel of Life) which focused on abortion, birth control and euthanasia John Paul declared capital punishment to be fundamentally unnecessary: Public authority must redress the violation of personal and social rights by imposing on the offender an adequate punishment for the crime In this way authority also fulfils the purpose of defending public order and ensuring people's safety, while at the same time offering the offender an incentive and help to change his or her behavior and be rehabilitated.
It is clear that, for these purposes to be achieved, the nature and extent of the punishment ought not go to the extreme of executing the offender except in cases of absolute necessity: in other words, when it would not be possible otherwise to defend society. Today however, as a result of steady improvements in the organization of the penal system, such cases are very rare, if not practically non-existent.
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith during John Pauls tenure and the current Pope Benedict XVI changed the catechism to reflect the late popes view:
"If bloodless means are sufficient to defend human lives against an aggressor and to protect public order and the safety of persons, public authority must limit itself to such means, because they better correspond to the concrete conditions of the common good and are more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.
Though his written opinion allowed for capital punishment in limited circumstances, John Paul used the encyclical as intellectual cover for his personal campaign to abolish the death penalty worldwide.
During his 1999 trip to the United States, the late pope successfully convinced Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan to commute the death sentence issued to Darrell Mease, who was convicted of murdering three people including a disabled 19-year old.
In 2000, John Paul asked Romes city officials to let the Colisseums lights shine continuously in memory of those who received death sentences. In 2001, the late pope wrote a personal request to President George W. Bush for clemency for Timothy McVeigh, who murdered 168 people in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.
John Paul revealed his true opinion about capital punishment at a large Mass in St. Louis on January 29, 1999, two days after Carnahan commuted Meases sentence:
The new evangelization calls for followers of Christ who are unconditionally pro-life: who will proclaim, celebrate and serve the Gospel of life in every situation. A sign of hope is the increasing recognition that the dignity of human life must never be taken away, even in the case of someone who has done great evil. Modern society has the means of protecting itself, without definitively denying criminals the chance to reform. I renew the appeal I made most recently at Christmas for a consensus to end the death penalty, which is both cruel and unnecessary.
Martino, speaking as the Holy Sees permanent observer at the United Nations, admitted that the Catholic Church seeks to abolish capital punishment worldwide in an address that November:
Abolition of the death penalty is only one step towards creating a deeper respect for human life. If millions of budding lives are eliminated at their very roots, and if the family of nations can take for granted such crimes without a disturbed conscience, the argument for the abolition of capital punishment will become less credible. Will the international community be prepared to condemn such a culture of death and advocate a culture of life?
The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops followed Martinos lead in March 2005 by announcing its own comprehensive abolitionist campaign, complete with political lobbying, judicial intervention and educational efforts in every parish.
John Pauls opinion not only reflected the growing consensus among European intellectuals against the death penalty. It also reflected his 40 years of living under Nazi and Communist tyrannies that arbitrarily misused capital punishment. Nevertheless, the late popes view directly contradicts centuries of Catholic teaching.
That teaching starts with the Old Testament, which all Christians consider divinely inspired. Genesis 9:5-6 describes God as ordering Noah and his descendents to execute murderers:
Murder is forbidden .Any person who murders must be killed. Yes, you must execute anyone who murders another person, for to kill a person is to kill a living being made in Gods image (New Living Translation).
That command, according to Genesis, came after a flood that destroyed a morally chaotic world and is repeated in the every book of the Torah, the first five books that form the Bibles foundation.
The command implies three theological principles. First, if God is the author of life, then God retains the prerogative to define the circumstances under which life can be taken. Second, God demands that humanity create just societies to protect the innocent. Third, murder is such a heinous violation of the divine image in humanity that execution is the only appropriate punishment.
Exodus 20-23 elaborates on these principles in what scholars call the lex talonis, which advocates punishment proportional to the offense the original meaning of eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Instead of encouraging vengeance, as Martino maintains, the lex talonis discourages ad hoc vigilantism the ultimate form of vindictiveness in favor of due process.
In the New Testament, St. Paul reinforces the idea in his letter to the Romans. In Chapter 12, he discourages his readers from avenging themselves by quoting Deuteronomy 32:35 (Vengeance is mine, says the Lord. I will repay!). In the next chapter, St. Paul encourages them to rely on due process through legitimate authorities because they do not bear the sword in vain (verse 4). Centuries of Catholic thought further reinforces those principles. In The City of God, St. Augustine states:
"The same divine law which forbids the killing of a human being allows certain exceptions. Since the agent of authority is but a sword in the hand, and is not responsible for the killing, it is in no way contrary to the commandment Thou shalt not kill, for the representative of the States authority to put criminals to death, according to the Law or the rule of rational justice.
St. Thomas Aquinas, in his masterpiece Summa Theologica, argues against the idea that incarceration alone is enough to protect the community:
If a man is a danger to the community, threatening it with disintegration by some wrongdoing of his, then his execution for the healing and preservation of the common good is to be commended. Only the public authority, not private persons, may licitly execute malefactors by public judgment. Men shall be sentenced to death for crimes of irreparable harm or which are particularly perverted.
In Summa Contra Gentiles, Aquinas even argues that impending execution can stimulate repentance:
The fact that the evil, as long as they live, can be corrected from their errors does not prohibit the fact that they may be justly executed, for the danger which threatens from their way of life is greater and more certain than the good which may be expected from their improvement. They also have at that critical point of death the opportunity to be converted to God through repentance. And if they are so stubborn that even at the point of death their heart does not draw back from evil, it is possible to make a highly probable judgment that they would never come away from evil to the right use of their powers.
The papacy mirrored this philosophy as recently as 1952, when Pope Pius XII said:
When it is a question of the execution of a man condemned to death it is then reserved to the public power to deprive the condemned of the benefit of life, in expiation of his fault, when already, by his fault, he has dispossessed himself of the right to live.
Not even Sister Helen Prejean, one of the most popular opponents of capital punishment, contends that the abolitionist position has biblical roots, as she admitted in her book, Dead Man Walking: It is abundantly clear that the Bible depicts murder as a capital crime for which death is considered the appropriate punishment, and one is hard pressed to find a biblical proof text in either the Hebrew Testament or the New Testament which unequivocally refutes this. Even Jesus admonition Let him without sin cast the first stone, when He was asked the appropriate punishment for an adulteress (John 8:7) the Mosaic Law prescribed death should be read in its proper context.
This passage is an entrapment story, which sought to show Jesus wisdom in besting His adversaries. It is not an ethical pronouncement about capital punishment.
So how does Prejean justify her abolitionist stance? As she told Progressive magazine in 1996, I couldnt worship a god who is less compassionate than I am.
That sentiment pervades Americas Catholic bishops, along with a willful ignorance of previous teaching and an intellectually fashionable sense of moral equivalence. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo, N.D. demonstrated all three when he publicly opposed the execution of Alfonso Rodriguez, who was convicted of murdering Dru Sjodin, a 22-year-old university student.
Responding to this senseless act of violence with another act of violence through imposition of the death penalty reinforces the false perspective of vengeance as justice, Aquila told Catholic News Agency on Sept. 25. In doing so, it diminishes respect for all human life, both the lives of the guilty and the innocent.
In 2001, Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles and Cardinal William Keeler of Baltimore issued a joint statement in which they said that McVeighs execution will not bring back to life those who died. Their facile pomposity is self-evident.
But the most idiotic opinion came from Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput, a favorite of conservative Catholics. In response to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalias thoughtful disagreement with the churchs revisionist stance, published in First Things in 2002, Chaput stated:
When Catholic Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia publicly disputes church teaching on the death penalty, the message he sends is not all that different from Frances Kissling disputing what the church teaches about abortion,... the impulse to pick and choose what we're going to accept is exactly the same kind of 'cafeteria Catholicism' in both cases.
Frances Kissling is a former nun who leads Catholics for a Free Choice, which advocates legalized abortion.
Ratzinger exposed Chaputs irresponsible ignorance less than two years before becoming pope. In July 2004, the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued the following as part of a letter to Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of Washington, D.C. concerning the American bishops stance toward Catholic political candidates:
Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion .There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia.
A far worse consequence of the Catholic Establishments revisionism, however, is its growing indifference if not outright contempt toward those who must cope with the murder of their loved ones. When she heard the news about John Pauls intervention on McVeighs behalf, Kathleen Treanor who lost her daughter and two in-laws in the bombing told Associated Press: Let me ask the pope, Wheres my clemency? When do I get any clemency? When does my family get some clemency? When the pope can answer that, we can talk.
In 1997, John Paul and Mother Teresa were among those advocating clemency for Joseph ODell, a Virginia man convicted of raping and murdering Helen Schartner in 1985. ODells fiancée manipulated public opinion in Italy to such a point that Gail Lee, Schartners sister, told Associated Press:
Were all very fragile at this point. Its just like the Italians hate us. They in essence have said to my family, You are worthless. Helens life doesnt matter.
McCarrick displayed his own self-righteous indifference when he talked to the Washington Post about McVeighs execution, which only victims relatives could see via closed-circuit television: It is like going back to the Roman Colosseum. I think that we're watching, in my mind, an act of vengeance, and vengeance is never justified.
The good cardinal thus equated the grieving, vulnerable relatives of murder victims with the hardened, barbaric masses of ancient Rome who found the bloody agony of gladiators and religious martyrs entertaining.
When considering sympathy for Saddam Hussein and other murderers, the Catholic Establishment would do well to heed this prophetic advice from the Hebrew Talmud:
Those who would be merciful when they should be cruel will be cruel when they should be merciful.
When the church fights against capital punishment for convicted murderers, it circumvents goverment.
Well, the Church, to use your word "fights" against abortion too, and that's legal....
I guess you're saying that abortion is ok, then, since it is "legal"?
Legitimate defense
2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one's own life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . The one is intended, the other is not."
2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:
If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's.
2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility.
2266 The efforts of the state to curb the spread of behavior harmful to people's rights and to the basic rules of civil society correspond to the requirement of safeguarding the common good. Legitimate public authority has the right and duty to inflict punishment proportionate to the gravity of the offense. Punishment has the primary aim of redressing the disorder introduced by the offense. When it is willingly accepted by the guilty party, it assumes the value of expiation. Punishment then, in addition to defending public order and protecting people's safety, has a medicinal purpose: as far as possible, it must contribute to the correction of the guilty party.
2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.
If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.
Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically nonexistent."
It's a good argument. The timing of Bernardin's speech was interesting too.:)
Thank you for posting! The Catechism is a great resource.
Chapter Two: "You Shall Love Your Neighbor As Yourself"
Article Five: The Fifth Commandment
I. Respect for Human Life
II. Respect for The Dignity of Persons
III. Safeguarding Peace
If they want to enforce the Nuremberg Code, they could start with Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Michael J. Fox...
This statement could be misleading. The Church still recognizes the right of the State to inflict the death penalty, in principle, in order to protect the public. But when it is possible for the State to imprison murderers for life without them representing a threat to society (such as in "supermax" prisons), the Church opposes the use of the death penalty. The Church has modified its position with regard to the death penalty in consideration of changing circumstances, but the Church has not changed its position in principle.
Well done, LisaFab.
If you read my posts, then you'd understand that I know the distinctions and that it was my intent to explain that nuanced position.
If you can form a cogent argument, go right ahead, but your current "opinions" don't cut it.
The novel addendum:...if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.
Compare this to the Catechism of Trent:
Execution Of CriminalsAnother kind of lawful slaying belongs to the civil authorities, to whom is entrusted power of life and death, by the legal and judicious exercise of which they punish the guilty and protect the innocent. The just use of this power, far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this Commandment which prohibits murder. The end of the Commandment? is the preservation and security of human life. Now the punishments inflicted by the civil authority, which is the legitimate avenger of crime, naturally tend to this end, since they give security to life by repressing outrage and violence. Hence these words of David: In the morning I put to death all the wicked of the land, that I might cut off all the workers of iniquity from the city of the Lord.
It is not my opinion. The Church is the Spotless Bride of Christ, which He Himself preserves without stain. Church men were given no such promise.
[It is not my opinion. The Church is the Spotless Bride of Christ, which He Himself preserves without stain. Church men were given no such promise.]
Oh well, alrighty then, lmao.
To deny the death penalty is to insist on life for evil. If the most hardened criminal goes unpunished, we adhere to a system that denies life to those whose persons were violated. This grants life to those who commit evil acts.
http://www.post-gazette.com/localnews/20031210yarris1210p1.asp
DNA exonerates death row inmate
State won't retry Nicholas Yarris for 1981 Delaware County murder; he's first in state to use genetic test to escape death penalty
Wednesday, December 10, 2003
By Cindi Lash, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
A Pennsylvania death row inmate became the first in the state to be exonerated by DNA evidence after prosecutors announced yesterday they would not retry him for the 1981 rape and murder of a suburban Philadelphia woman.
So what's your point?
[So what's your point?]
So what's my point? Um, I think you just proved my point.
Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or feel alarmed. Most of the time, it's a combo.
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