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Democrat image dented already by leadership battle
The Times ^ | November 17, 2006 | Tom Baldwin and Tim Reid

Posted on 11/16/2006 11:41:22 PM PST by MadIvan

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Dear America - if you thought the Republicans were incompetent, you haven't seen what this batch of Democrats can do. Or not. ;)

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 11/16/2006 11:41:23 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/16/2006 11:41:38 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
F*ck the appeal to the moderates. I rarely resort to a profanity but such is my feeling that people who stick their finger in the wind before deciding what position to take deserve no respect from me.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 11/16/2006 11:44:03 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MadIvan
The problem is that the dems are Dangerous in their incompetence.

And that puts us all in Danger.
4 posted on 11/16/2006 11:47:30 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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'Dear America - if you thought the Republicans were incompetent, you haven't seen what this batch of Democrats can do."
May the Lord save us from the competence in those in power. it is their incompetence which forms our last and [so far] the most reliable line of defence against their malice and evil.
5 posted on 11/16/2006 11:53:08 PM PST by GSlob
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The Republicans, meanwhile, have done little to show that they are reaching out to the centrist voters who rejected them in midterm elections last week. This week the party’s senators decided to bring back Trent Lott as their deputy leader..."

I don't think the author realizes that re-instatement of Lott is reaching out to the center, even to the left. Lott always voted on the right but gave away the store in his negotiations with the democrats. He's given us no reason to think that will change.

6 posted on 11/16/2006 11:58:21 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: MadIvan

Oh come on! The article overestimates the effect on Pelosi's leadership. Remember, she isn't a dictator...she only holds her post at the request of her fellow congressmen and women.


Just look at these excerpts:
...a huge blow...
...a bitterly contested leadership battle.
...despite Ms Pelosi’s aggressive and unprecedentedly active canvassing...
...badly tarnished...
...shattered by defeat...
...rubbing their hands with glee...
Dark storm clouds...
...the strong-arm tactics...
...dismayed even some of her supporters.
...a torrent of criticism...

Methinks the author studied at the Captain James Tiberius Kirk School of Journalism.


7 posted on 11/16/2006 11:58:47 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: goldstategop

Those who do not stick their finger in the wind before urinating risk soiling their garments.


8 posted on 11/16/2006 11:58:50 PM PST by GSlob
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This is nothing compared to the fight she'll get from the Congressional Black Caucus if she overlooks the impeached Alcee Hastings for head of the House Intelligence Committee. Ruth Marcus reported in the Washington Post on Nov 1 that the CBC would not support Pelosi for Speaker unless she promised to give Hastings the job. Pelosi was elected unanimously, so we can assume the decision has been made - unless the Murtha disaster has scared her off of picking another corrupt politician. Unlike today's dumping of Murtha, the House Intelligence Committee's post is Pelosi's alone to make.


9 posted on 11/16/2006 11:59:45 PM PST by KingKenrod
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To: MadIvan

I knew they'd start screwing it up. I just didn't think it would be this soon. GOD protect our country from these idiot RATS!


10 posted on 11/17/2006 12:03:00 AM PST by Bush gal in LA
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The leadership election has left the Democrats’ image for unity and probity badly tarnished, while Republicans, who last week were shattered by defeat, are now rubbing their hands with glee — and their eyes in disbelief.

I can't help but wonder whether this is a news piece or an opinion piece. Hard to tell with the Times.

11 posted on 11/17/2006 12:13:59 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Dear Americans, we now have three types of politicians in charge of the country. The Liberals, the Moderates, and the conservatives. The problem is that the definition of a Moderate is a Liberal that is lying. I think we will see levels of incompetency heretofore unbeknownst to man freely flowing from both sides of the aisle. Hang on to your wallets, and keep your powder dry.


12 posted on 11/17/2006 12:18:38 AM PST by Billyv (It is our commonality (desire for liberty) NOT our diversity that makes America great.)
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I wonder if Pelosi was so much pro-Murtha, as she was anti-Hoyer. She and Hoyer competed directly for her previous post. She won, Hoyer lost, news reports say they have been cool towards each other ever since.


13 posted on 11/17/2006 12:21:30 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Bonaparte
Lott always voted on the right but gave away the store in his negotiations with the democrats

Was not a big Lott supporter before Frist, but Lott votes right and is technically knowledgeable in terms of Senate rules. In addition he will not be the leader this time, Mitch McConnell will. In any case with less than 60 members and a Democrat President he had a lot smaller store to give away than Frist!

14 posted on 11/17/2006 12:30:45 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I went down in 1964 for Barry Goldwater with all flags flying! This is just a blip!)
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Nancy seems to be nothing more than an old gal way over her head and playing feminazi style politics with her underlings.

She instills no confidence that anything good will ever come out of this last election.

All she brings to house leadership is more greedy bottom feeders eating at the government trough, feeding like a bunch of tyrannical pigs.
15 posted on 11/17/2006 12:31:25 AM PST by IMDOCTORA (Not all Latinos have given up on the Republican party by buying into the Democrat line)
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To: gleeaikin

It is a huge loss for Pelosi.But watch out for Murtha Istill think he sold his soul for power,and now that it's denied to him,no telling what he'll do.


16 posted on 11/17/2006 12:31:30 AM PST by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: MadIvan

okay...im trying, smirking, i can do this, smirking more...think of something else...snigger...no i cant!!!


BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


what was that...1 week...wiping tears from my eyes...oh man, between this and the picture of kerry looking like a schoolboy who wet his pants and being left behind, murtha in the tape with he sheik...money cant buy this...


17 posted on 11/17/2006 12:43:39 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: CitizenUSA

Though the language in the report is atrocious, the actions depicted are what he says they are. Based on her personal feelings about the Iraq war, Pelosi heavily backed a guy who almost couldn't be more harmful to the image of her party. If she can't grasp this stuff, she's going to make a rotten speaker.


18 posted on 11/17/2006 1:04:06 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: MadIvan

You beat me to it.


19 posted on 11/17/2006 1:06:35 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: goldstategop
I rarely resort to a profanity but such is my feeling that people who stick their finger in the wind before deciding what position to take deserve no respect from me.

I don't blame you. I've been reduced to the same after seeing some of the openly brainless commentary on how Republicans should round up the centrists to their cause. They lost because they didn't lead their base where the base wanted to go. The ignored conservatives and now they're acting like they want to solidy their place in the minority.

It's pathetic that the best and brightest hope that Republicans have are that the rats are so completely incapable and incompetent.

20 posted on 11/17/2006 1:48:17 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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