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Democrat image dented already by leadership battle
The Times ^ | November 17, 2006 | Tom Baldwin and Tim Reid

Posted on 11/16/2006 11:41:22 PM PST by MadIvan

NANCY PELOSI, the new House of Representatives Speaker, received a huge blow to her authority yesterday in a bitterly contested leadership battle.

Congressional Democrats voted by a margin of 149-86 to elect Steny Hoyer as their House Majority leader — effectively the Speaker’s deputy — despite Ms Pelosi’s aggressive and unprecedentedly active canvassing of support for John Murtha, a rival candidate.

Her intervention, in a contest over which she had previously promised to stay neutral, has raised question marks over her judgment even before the first woman Speaker in America formally takes power on Capitol Hill.

The leadership election has left the Democrats’ image for unity and probity badly tarnished, while Republicans, who last week were shattered by defeat, are now rubbing their hands with glee — and their eyes in disbelief.

Dark storm clouds were gathered over Washington yesterday lunchtime as Ms Pelosi emerged from the election meeting with her Congressional Democrat colleagues. All sides tried to put on their best face for the press, as Ms Pelosi said: “We have had our debates and we have had our disagreements. Now that is over. As they say in church, let there be peace on Earth, let the healing begin.” She said that Mr Hoyer had “come out a big winner” and gave him a little hug. In turn Mr Hoyer, her deputy for the past three years and a man with whom she has long since had a strained relationship, paid a warm tribute to her leadership.

However, on Sunday Ms Pelosi had released a letter endorsing Mr Murtha’s candidacy. For a Speaker to take a public position on a leadership election is itself highly unusual. But the strong-arm tactics that were later deployed against newly elected Congressmen — which are alleged to have included threats to block their appointment to key committees if they did not back Mr Murtha — has dismayed even some of her supporters.

Mr Murtha is a close ally of Ms Pelosi, as well as being a strong and vocal critic of the Iraq war. Aides have suggested that her endorsement was motivated by personal loyalty. But she said yesterday that her intervention had been because she “thought that would be the best way to bring an end to the war in Iraq”.

Worse still for the Democrats, Ms Pelosi’s championing of Mr Murtha has switched the spotlight back on to their patchy ethical record, only a week after being swept back to power on Capitol Hill on a promise to clean up Congress.

Mr Murtha has become known as the “go to” guy on the House’s defence appropriations committee for defence firms wanting government business. The two main beneficiaries of his largesse include a lobbying company that employed his brother and another founded by a former aide.

In the 1980s, Mr Murtha was originally named as a co-conspirator in the Abscam bribery scandal, an FBI sting operation in which agents dressed as Arab sheikhs and offered bribes to politicians. Although he was never charged, an undercover video taken by the FBI and being circulated on conservative websites this week, paints an unflattering picture. It shows Mr Murtha, after being offered a bribe, saying: “I want to deal with you guys awhile before I make any transactions. After we’ve done some business, well, then I might change my mind.”

At the same time the Democrats have opened a second infighting sideshow this week by directing a torrent of criticism at Howard Dean, the party’s national chairman, who is being accused of failing to make the most of a once-in-a-generation wave of support. James Carville and Stan Greenberg, veterans from Bill Clinton’s presidential campaigns, said that the Democrats could have picked up 10 to 20 more Congressional seats last week if Mr Dean had concentrated resources on marginal races rather than investing millions of dollars in rebuilding state parties. “I would describe his leadership as Rusmfeldian in its incompetence,” Mr Carville said.

The Republicans, meanwhile, have done little to show that they are reaching out to the centrist voters who rejected them in midterm elections last week. This week the party’s senators decided to bring back Trent Lott as their deputy leader, four years after he was ousted from the top post for making racially charged remarks.

President Bush had publicly disassociated himself from Mr Lott in 2002 when as Majority Leader Mr Lott showered praise on Strom Thurmond, who had run for the White House 54 years earlier on a platform opposing efforts to “force the negro into our homes, our schools and our churches”.

Mr Lott has since apologised.


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KEYWORDS: democrats; infighting; selfdestruct
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Dear America - if you thought the Republicans were incompetent, you haven't seen what this batch of Democrats can do. Or not. ;)

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 11/16/2006 11:41:23 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/16/2006 11:41:38 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
F*ck the appeal to the moderates. I rarely resort to a profanity but such is my feeling that people who stick their finger in the wind before deciding what position to take deserve no respect from me.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 11/16/2006 11:44:03 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MadIvan
The problem is that the dems are Dangerous in their incompetence.

And that puts us all in Danger.
4 posted on 11/16/2006 11:47:30 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: MadIvan
'Dear America - if you thought the Republicans were incompetent, you haven't seen what this batch of Democrats can do."
May the Lord save us from the competence in those in power. it is their incompetence which forms our last and [so far] the most reliable line of defence against their malice and evil.
5 posted on 11/16/2006 11:53:08 PM PST by GSlob
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To: MadIvan
The Republicans, meanwhile, have done little to show that they are reaching out to the centrist voters who rejected them in midterm elections last week. This week the party’s senators decided to bring back Trent Lott as their deputy leader..."

I don't think the author realizes that re-instatement of Lott is reaching out to the center, even to the left. Lott always voted on the right but gave away the store in his negotiations with the democrats. He's given us no reason to think that will change.

6 posted on 11/16/2006 11:58:21 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: MadIvan

Oh come on! The article overestimates the effect on Pelosi's leadership. Remember, she isn't a dictator...she only holds her post at the request of her fellow congressmen and women.


Just look at these excerpts:
...a huge blow...
...a bitterly contested leadership battle.
...despite Ms Pelosi’s aggressive and unprecedentedly active canvassing...
...badly tarnished...
...shattered by defeat...
...rubbing their hands with glee...
Dark storm clouds...
...the strong-arm tactics...
...dismayed even some of her supporters.
...a torrent of criticism...

Methinks the author studied at the Captain James Tiberius Kirk School of Journalism.


7 posted on 11/16/2006 11:58:47 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: goldstategop

Those who do not stick their finger in the wind before urinating risk soiling their garments.


8 posted on 11/16/2006 11:58:50 PM PST by GSlob
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To: MadIvan

This is nothing compared to the fight she'll get from the Congressional Black Caucus if she overlooks the impeached Alcee Hastings for head of the House Intelligence Committee. Ruth Marcus reported in the Washington Post on Nov 1 that the CBC would not support Pelosi for Speaker unless she promised to give Hastings the job. Pelosi was elected unanimously, so we can assume the decision has been made - unless the Murtha disaster has scared her off of picking another corrupt politician. Unlike today's dumping of Murtha, the House Intelligence Committee's post is Pelosi's alone to make.


9 posted on 11/16/2006 11:59:45 PM PST by KingKenrod
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To: MadIvan

I knew they'd start screwing it up. I just didn't think it would be this soon. GOD protect our country from these idiot RATS!


10 posted on 11/17/2006 12:03:00 AM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: MadIvan
The leadership election has left the Democrats’ image for unity and probity badly tarnished, while Republicans, who last week were shattered by defeat, are now rubbing their hands with glee — and their eyes in disbelief.

I can't help but wonder whether this is a news piece or an opinion piece. Hard to tell with the Times.

11 posted on 11/17/2006 12:13:59 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: MadIvan

Dear Americans, we now have three types of politicians in charge of the country. The Liberals, the Moderates, and the conservatives. The problem is that the definition of a Moderate is a Liberal that is lying. I think we will see levels of incompetency heretofore unbeknownst to man freely flowing from both sides of the aisle. Hang on to your wallets, and keep your powder dry.


12 posted on 11/17/2006 12:18:38 AM PST by Billyv (It is our commonality (desire for liberty) NOT our diversity that makes America great.)
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To: MadIvan; All

I wonder if Pelosi was so much pro-Murtha, as she was anti-Hoyer. She and Hoyer competed directly for her previous post. She won, Hoyer lost, news reports say they have been cool towards each other ever since.


13 posted on 11/17/2006 12:21:30 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Bonaparte
Lott always voted on the right but gave away the store in his negotiations with the democrats

Was not a big Lott supporter before Frist, but Lott votes right and is technically knowledgeable in terms of Senate rules. In addition he will not be the leader this time, Mitch McConnell will. In any case with less than 60 members and a Democrat President he had a lot smaller store to give away than Frist!

14 posted on 11/17/2006 12:30:45 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I went down in 1964 for Barry Goldwater with all flags flying! This is just a blip!)
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To: Prost1
Nancy seems to be nothing more than an old gal way over her head and playing feminazi style politics with her underlings.

She instills no confidence that anything good will ever come out of this last election.

All she brings to house leadership is more greedy bottom feeders eating at the government trough, feeding like a bunch of tyrannical pigs.
15 posted on 11/17/2006 12:31:25 AM PST by IMDOCTORA (Not all Latinos have given up on the Republican party by buying into the Democrat line)
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To: gleeaikin

It is a huge loss for Pelosi.But watch out for Murtha Istill think he sold his soul for power,and now that it's denied to him,no telling what he'll do.


16 posted on 11/17/2006 12:31:30 AM PST by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: MadIvan

okay...im trying, smirking, i can do this, smirking more...think of something else...snigger...no i cant!!!


BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


what was that...1 week...wiping tears from my eyes...oh man, between this and the picture of kerry looking like a schoolboy who wet his pants and being left behind, murtha in the tape with he sheik...money cant buy this...


17 posted on 11/17/2006 12:43:39 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: CitizenUSA

Though the language in the report is atrocious, the actions depicted are what he says they are. Based on her personal feelings about the Iraq war, Pelosi heavily backed a guy who almost couldn't be more harmful to the image of her party. If she can't grasp this stuff, she's going to make a rotten speaker.


18 posted on 11/17/2006 1:04:06 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: MadIvan

You beat me to it.


19 posted on 11/17/2006 1:06:35 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: goldstategop
I rarely resort to a profanity but such is my feeling that people who stick their finger in the wind before deciding what position to take deserve no respect from me.

I don't blame you. I've been reduced to the same after seeing some of the openly brainless commentary on how Republicans should round up the centrists to their cause. They lost because they didn't lead their base where the base wanted to go. The ignored conservatives and now they're acting like they want to solidy their place in the minority.

It's pathetic that the best and brightest hope that Republicans have are that the rats are so completely incapable and incompetent.

20 posted on 11/17/2006 1:48:17 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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