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Indians start-up kings of the US: 'Desis' dominate foreign-founded start-ups in US
The Times of India ^ | 16 Nov 2006 | The Times of India

Posted on 11/15/2006 9:32:19 PM PST by CarrotAndStick

WASHINGTON: Indian immigrants to the United States account for 28 per cent of all foreign-founded private start-up companies in a climate dominated by migrant entrepreneurship, according to a new study.

The study found that over the past 15 years, immigrants have started 1 in 4 (25 percent) US public companies that were venture-backed, representing a market capitalization of more than $500 billion. Topping that, a survey of private, venture-backed start-up companies in the US estimated that a staggering 47 percent have immigrant founders.

In that group, "India was the most prevalent country of origin with 28 percent followed by the United Kingdom (11 percent), China (5 percent), Iran (4 percent), and France (4 percent)," the study says. No numbers were given for public venture-backed firms, but even in that category, "the most common countries of origin are India, Israel and Taiwan."

The findings back the long-held view, based on more limited surveys in Silicon Valley, that Indian immigrants are a significant force in America’s start-up culture. Indians have been founding companies in the U.S even outside Bay area for decades, going back to Amar Bose's Bose Corp in Massachusetts and Suhas Patil’s Cirrus Logic in Utah.

The study also found that immigrant founders are responsible for building a high percentage of the most innovative American companies, with 87 percent operating in sectors such as high-tech manufacturing, information technology and life sciences. These companies are headquartered across the country but are concentrated in five states: California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Washington and Texas.

Nearly half of the immigrant entrepreneurs in the current nationwide survey (46 percent) arrived in the US as students, the study says. More than half of the founders started their businesses within 12 years of entering the US They hold an average of 14.5 patents. Sixty-nine percent of these individuals have become American citizens.

Authors of the survey cited this to emphasize the need for the United States to remain open for legal immigration and higher work visa quotas.

"There is no question that the US must remain a magnet of foreign-born talent if we are to maintain our competitive edge. However, current quotas on highly-skilled immigrants are insufficient and these great minds are beginning to look elsewhere to build their businesses," says Mark Heesen, president of the National Venture Capital Association, which commissioned the study.

"A key lesson of the study is the importance of maintaining a more open, legal immigration system," adds Stuart Anderson, co-author of the report. "Few of these impressive immigrant entrepreneurs could have started a company immediately upon arriving in the US -- many were just children, international students or H-1B professionals -- but it's clear that America helped shape them into entrepreneurs as much as they have helped shape America..."

The study cites some of today best known companies, including Google, Yahoo!, Intel and Sun Microsystems (co-founded by New Delhi’s Vinod Khosla) as exemplars of America’s openness to immigrant entrepreneurship.

"Yahoo! would not be an American company today if the United States had not welcomed my family and me almost thirty years ago," Yahoo! co-founder Jerry Yang tells the authors. "We must do all that we can to ensure that the door is open for the next generation of top entrepreneurs, engineers and scientists from around the world to come to the US and thrive."

"Whether they arrive as children, students, or professionals, we want the best and the brightest here. Our immigration policy should reflect that or these talents will go elsewhere," adds Yang.

The study comes at a time of increased resistance in the United States to immigrants and a campaign to limit work visas. At the same time, there is also a fear of migration of jobs and talent abroad -- which the study talks about -- if there is a squeeze on immigration.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capitalism; economy; india; startup

1 posted on 11/15/2006 9:32:22 PM PST by CarrotAndStick
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To: Gengis Khan; Cronos; swarthyguy; indcons; sukhoi-30mki
In that group, "India was the most prevalent country of origin with 28 percent followed by the United Kingdom (11 percent), China (5 percent), Iran (4 percent), and France (4 percent)," the study says. No numbers were given for public venture-backed firms, but even in that category, "the most common countries of origin are India, Israel and Taiwan."

Pinging.

2 posted on 11/15/2006 9:36:27 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
I don't think that Americans are opposed to immigration, per se, but to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Most informed people realize that LEGAL IMMIGRANTS bring much to the table, as this article clearly shows. These are two separate issues, and not even closely linked.

Now that the democrats will vote to repeal the border wall passed by the GOP, anyone within driving distance of the border or retired should be joining with the Minuteman Project.
3 posted on 11/15/2006 10:13:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: CarrotAndStick

And guess what? They qualify for minority programs. If you're going into business make sure that your majority partner is an Indian.


4 posted on 11/15/2006 10:14:11 PM PST by opinionator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For some posters this India-gasm never ends. Every single post is India-centric.


5 posted on 11/15/2006 10:16:47 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: opinionator

"And guess what? They qualify for minority programs. If you're going into business make sure that your majority partner is an Indian." Females and disabled veterans also qualify under SBA and other programs. The female aspect is played up, but not the disabled veteran angle.


6 posted on 11/15/2006 10:17:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Indian americans are very smart people to be sure.

but alot of these "startups" go like this - some Indian american rises in the ranks of a US tech company, he develops contacts in India for contract programmers, he leaves the corporate environment and sets himself up as an offshoring shop - to move the technology he worked on while on the "inside", offshore to India. and US companies are eager to sign up - they get lower costs, and they get a "trusted liason" to move the work offshore. I've seen this pattern many times.

this kind of venture, doesn't add anything to the US tech base - it just helps move it offshore faster.


7 posted on 11/15/2006 10:26:23 PM PST by oceanview
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am not sure what you meant by "The female aspect is played up, but not the disabled veteran angle".

Not an attack, just interested in your statement.

Thanks

8 posted on 11/15/2006 10:49:38 PM PST by highpockets
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To: highpockets

The federal government markets and publicizes the "female-owned minority business" programs much much more than it does the "disabled veteran minority owned business" programs. Just stating facts. I'll bet most people here didn't even know about the veteran programs until I mentioned them...


9 posted on 11/15/2006 10:55:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you.


10 posted on 11/15/2006 10:57:26 PM PST by highpockets
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To: CarrotAndStick

looks like they are ramping up to a point where they will push up the H1B limit again.


11 posted on 11/15/2006 11:24:46 PM PST by sten
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To: oceanview
Maybe you missed this part:

Nearly half of the immigrant entrepreneurs in the current nationwide survey (46 percent) arrived in the US as students, the study says. More than half of the founders started their businesses within 12 years of entering the US They hold an average of 14.5 patents. Sixty-nine percent of these individuals have become American citizens.
12 posted on 11/16/2006 12:34:58 AM PST by An_Indian
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To: An_Indian

how does that part have anything to do with what I said. my point is - their "entreprenuerial" business, is many time, designed to help assist offshoring of jobs to India.

those aren't the kind of "entrepeneurs" US tech needs. I don't care whether they are citizens or not.


13 posted on 11/16/2006 6:34:27 AM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
I am an Indian living in the US and I have heard this kind media publicized rubbish being repeated all too often. The jobs are moving offshore not because of the presence of Indians in US, they are moving there because its cheaper and thats just how economics and free market works. If its not India then another country. Either way the jobs have got to move.

Its not that Indians rise up to the ranks and then offshore the jobs, rather the other way round many companies hire Indian managers so that they can establish contact with Indian companies in order to access cheaper labour (with comparable expertise) thats available outside the US. Offshoring jobs to India is not the practice of Indians but the policy of certain US companies.

If anything Indians have contributed more via carrying out more innovations, getting patents, starting entrepreneurial ventures, creating more business and more jobs. One thing I have noticed in US is there is no dearth of job...... for the competent.
14 posted on 11/16/2006 12:21:38 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

I didn't say "because of it", its that they take advantage of the situation.

they don't "offshore the jobs", but they've jumped on the trend and are facilitating it - that's what many of these indian "entrepreneurial ventures" are all about. that's not innovation.

I know dozens of qualified US engineers - blown out of the field completely by offshoring. and when you look at the matriculation rates of incoming college persons in the US, if you take out foreign nationals, the field is dead here in the US for anyone except managers.


15 posted on 11/16/2006 12:32:00 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
"I didn't say "because of it", its that they take advantage of the situation.

they don't "offshore the jobs", but they've jumped on the trend and are facilitating it - that's what many of these indian "entrepreneurial ventures" are all about. that's not innovation."


You are contradicting yourself. "[Indians] jumped on the trend and are facilitating it" is quite like saying its all because of Indians. You think if I would get that kind of a job for a hefty pay i would refuse. You think Americans would refuse such a job if they could play the role of a trusted liaison better then an Indian?Blame the US companies or maybe blame free trade for it.


"I know dozens of qualified US engineers - blown out of the field completely by offshoring."

It doesn't happen to only US engineers, it happens around the world. I doesn't matter how good you are in your field you cant take your job for granted, your profitability is what will keep you in business.

"and when you look at the matriculation rates of incoming college persons in the US, if you take out foreign nationals, the field is dead here in the US for anyone except managers."

Not the fault of the foreigners, US is still the destination that attracts the largest number of scientist and engineers from all over the world. US is still the epicenter of all engineering and scientific businesses and activities happening in the world. The bulk of innovations happens here and is done by foreigners. Its simply a matter of choice that foreigners are willing to enter the field of science and engineering and choosing to put in their hard work and succeed in it. I don't for a moment believe that something is being deliberately done to keep US engineers out of the field. And whats exactly is stopping the US engineers from going outside the US to explore their opportunities. If others around the world can do it why not Americans? There is very little foreigners can do working against the tide of free market to keep the jobs here and to keep the exclusively "American".
16 posted on 11/16/2006 1:05:36 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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