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Giuliani 'Unacceptable' for President, Conservatives Say
CNSNews ^ | November 15, 2006 | Randy Hall

Posted on 11/15/2006 7:30:55 AM PST by 300magnum

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani enjoys "a lot of good will" from Republicans from his handling of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, but his stance on social issues like abortion and gun control make him an unacceptable candidate in the 2008 presidential election, according to conservative analysts.

Giuliani, who announced Monday that he has filed papers to form an exploratory committee as the first step towards a White House run, is "absolutely unacceptable under any circumstances" as a presidential candidate, Colleen Parro, executive director of the Republican National Coalition for Life, told Cybercast News Service.

"The core values of the Republican Party with respect to life issues -- which is where our main concern is -- and the issues of the homosexual movement, etc., cause his candidacy for the nomination to just be dead in the water," she said.

Giuliani has described himself as "pro-choice" and said he would not support a ban on partial-birth abortions. He promoted gun control programs and civil unions for same-sex partners during his two terms as New York City mayor.

While serving in that post, Giuliani saw his private life become a regular subject of media scrutiny, especially in 2000, when he announced at a press conference that he was seeking a separation from his second wife without first telling her of his decision.

"Despite Giuliani's charm and his obvious leadership abilities, as far as social and cultural issues are concerned, not only his personal life but his public views make him unacceptable," Parro said.

Supporters of a Giuliani bid launched a group a year ago called Draft Rudy Giuliani for President.

Co-founder Nicholas Tyszka said in a statement this week that, "with the current climate [of divisiveness] in Washington," Giuliani would be an excellent nominee, as "he has such a broad base of appeal, even cutting across political lines."

The group, whose other co-founder is veteran Republican political consultant Allen Fore, said that "America needs and wants this great man to lead our nation."

"Named Time Magazine's 'Person of the Year' in 2001, Rudy Giuliani has been a proven leader during one of the toughest periods in American history," the organization's website states.

"Giuliani exemplifies leadership, courage and compassion," it says. "Rudy Giuliani has dedicated his professional life to serving the United States, including assistant attorney general in the U.S. Justice Department under President Reagan and as the crime-fighting U.S. attorney in the state of New York.

"He has an unrivaled record of honesty and integrity, always putting the people's interest above politics," the website continues. "His service as mayor of New York City, particularly after the devastating terrorist attacks against our country on September 11, 2001, made him America's mayor. Now it's time to make him America's president."

Although forming an exploratory committee does not guarantee that an individual will run for president, Giuliani's announcement Monday drew a quick response from the Democratic National Committee:

"It's unclear whether or not Rudy Giuliani will be able to just 'explain away' the fact that he's consistently taken positions that are completely opposite to the conservative Republican base on issues they hold near and dear," said DNC Communications Director Karen Finney in a press statement.

"Throughout his career, Giuliani has tried to paint himself as a moderate, but now that he's vying for his party's nomination, will he undergo an extreme makeover in an attempt to cozy up to the far right?" Finney asked.

The DNC also issued a speedy response after Sen. John McCain made a similar announcement on Sunday.

Brian Darling, director of Senate relations for the conservative Heritage Foundation, told Cybercast News Service that "it's going to be virtually impossible for Giuliani to woo voters who put the Second Amendment and family values as their top issues."

However, Giuliani "clearly has a lot of good will with Republicans, and his goal should be to shore up his conservative credentials on the issues of federal spending and anti-terrorism," Darling said.

Since he was mayor of New York City during 9/11, Giuliani "can trumpet anti-terrorism as one of his major policies. But he also needs to talk about limiting the federal government and restricting out-of-control federal spending so he can shore up support among conservatives who care about pocketbook issues," Darling said.

While acknowledging that Giuliani is "a presumptive front-runner" for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, Darling said the former mayor is enjoying good poll numbers "merely because he has high name recognition."

Strong approval figures don't guarantee victories when the party's primaries begin, Darling noted.

"Just ask [early 2004 Democratic front-runner] Howard Dean about that," he said.


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To: BunnySlippers

The anti-Rudy people are out in force today ... Go Rudy!


The Anti-s are the reason we lost the last election. One issue conservatives are not my voice and I am not going to bow down to them at every whim anymore!


41 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:26 AM PST by JFC
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To: areafiftyone

They are making threats as usual. Saying that they won't vote if Rudy is nominated.


42 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:34 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: TommyDale

From yesterdays thread Rudy is the greatest thing since sliced bread. From their posts it sounded like they would vote for him even if he had a (D) after his name.


43 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:56 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: beltfed308

From their posts it sounded like they would vote for him even if he had a (D) after his name

WRONG, I have never voted for a D and don't plan to in the future!


44 posted on 11/15/2006 7:55:00 AM PST by JFC
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To: JFC

Ditto.

Don't blame me for Hillary. I will vote for whoever the party nominates ... always have even though I haven't always liked the choice.

But I do like Rudy. I don't think he'll sell us down the river. And we need him.


45 posted on 11/15/2006 7:55:28 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: EagleUSA

The Eagle sees far with clarity.


46 posted on 11/15/2006 7:55:41 AM PST by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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To: BunnySlippers; areafiftyone

Then let them stay home, if that's their choice.

But how about we be fair and hear what the man has to say, at least, before we starting lighting torches and gathering pitchforks?

Sheeesh! This is certainly NOT the America I wore the uniform for.


47 posted on 11/15/2006 7:55:46 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: BunnySlippers

I say fine - let them stay home. Then when President Hillary Rodham Clinton and her VP Bubba Clinton signs into law - HillaryCARE - I don't want to hear one peep out of them! LOL


48 posted on 11/15/2006 7:55:52 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: 300magnum

I will never vote for a President who is pro abortion!


49 posted on 11/15/2006 7:56:11 AM PST by Halls (God, please grant me the serenity to accept what I can not change....)
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To: 300magnum

Giuliani vrs. H Clinton. Somehow that makes him sound much more acceptable.


50 posted on 11/15/2006 7:56:57 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: areafiftyone

"I say fine - let them stay home. Then when President Hillary Rodham Clinton and her VP Bubba Clinton signs into law - HillaryCARE - I don't want to hear one peep out of them!"

How dare YOU apply logic, Five-One?


51 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:04 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: areafiftyone

I spent a couple minutes reading through some of these posts - my of my what a wonderful collection of paranoid and misguided souls.

I sometimes wonder if half these folks have ever left their homes of their gun cellars. They would do well to read more than just the same old diatribe over and over again.

Guys like TommyDale are way way out there... very scary.

There's a long road ahead - I suspect many of these lunes will be marginalized - or perhaps they find themselves a candidate they love and admire.

Can't wait to see who that turns out to be.

In the mean times "keep those eyes spinning counter clockwise" is all can think to tell some of these folks.

Man oh man - scary


52 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:16 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Halls

Not that it makes a difference.

A stay at home vote is a vote for Hillary whether you acknowledge it or not.


53 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:22 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: BunnySlippers
---"They are making threats as usual. Saying that they won't vote if Rudy is nominated."---

You get the same thing with McCain.

In some cases, I think we just have to accept that some candidates are unacceptable to a lot of folks on the right.

I am in the no-Rudy camp -- I would actively work against him if he were nominated. In my opinion, the permanent harm he would do to the Conservative movement would be so crippling I'd rather lose the election.

Yes, it's that bad to me. I know I'm not alone.

You may not like to hear it, but Rudy is going to cause more division and anger within our party that most people can see while looking at the current MSM poll numbers.
54 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:27 AM PST by TitansAFC ("Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.")
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To: Wombat101
"Hmmm, whatever happened to "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?" Oh, I forgot; that pearl of Christian wisdom only applies to people the perpetually-panty-bunched actually like.

My bad, thinking Jesus meant for that to be applied across the board. (/sarc)."

LOL, you a snipper clipper of Bible verses and then stomp yer feet muddying up the clear water of what else is written.

So WHO cast the FIRST STONE????
55 posted on 11/15/2006 7:58:12 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Wombat101

Who's throwing stones?

Perhaps this is about discernment and not about condemning a person.

Why are you quoting Jesus if you have such distain for His followers (and therefore for Him)?


56 posted on 11/15/2006 7:58:24 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Wombat101

So I assume you're approaching the McCain candidacy with a clean slate?


57 posted on 11/15/2006 7:58:33 AM PST by TitansAFC ("Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.")
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To: areafiftyone
Giuliani is "absolutely unacceptable under any circumstances" as a presidential candidate, Colleen Parro, executive director of the Republican National Coalition for Life, told Cybercast News Service.


On that note I'm sure Rudy will throw in the towel....

LOL
58 posted on 11/15/2006 7:59:15 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: TitansAFC

I don't like everyone that party nominates. But I vote for them anyway.

Enjoy Hillary.


59 posted on 11/15/2006 7:59:16 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: BunnySlippers

I won't be staying home on election day and I will vote for the Republican candidate and it won't be RUDY!


60 posted on 11/15/2006 7:59:28 AM PST by Halls (God, please grant me the serenity to accept what I can not change....)
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