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NO TO RUDI
Nealz Nuze ^ | 11/15/06 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/15/2006 6:06:03 AM PST by steve-b

Earlier this week we learned that Rudolph Giuliani has filed papers to form an exploratory committee. That's the first step to running for president. Well .. .it didn't take long for the religious right to announce that up with this they will not put. Colleen Parro, the head of some group called the Republican National Coalition for Life says that Giuliani is "absolutely unacceptable under any circumstances." The two issues she cited? Homosexuals and abortion.

Now ... what was it I said earlier this week that made so many zealots so unhappy? Oh yeah .. it was something about us needing a political movement dedicated to individual and economic liberty, limited government with a strong defense, cutting government spending, school choice and strong capitalist instincts .. and one that had no desire to force the people of this country to live under any particular codification of religious dogma.

Good luck on that.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; boortzaliberal; giuliani; guliani; judyruliani; prolife; rudi; rudy
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To: Condor51

Don't say he's never been in Queens, because I'm sure we've all seem him in drag. If I knew how to post pics, I would.


81 posted on 11/15/2006 7:43:33 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit , genius hits a target no one else can see"---Schopenhauer)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

#21---all excellent points.


82 posted on 11/15/2006 7:44:46 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit , genius hits a target no one else can see"---Schopenhauer)
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To: steve-b

The usual Bortzian "if it ain't my way of thinking, it's wrong" I really wish that some times he would just STFU. He like the 65% solution, mostly correct but a huge slice of intolerant Libertarian groupthink.


83 posted on 11/15/2006 7:45:12 AM PST by Colorado Mike (Lord, help me be the Conservative my enemies think I am.)
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To: steve-b

Abortion is not "religious dogma." It's murder.

Sometimes these libertarians take it too far. Ayn Rand was one messed up woman (who writes some crappy movie dialog, BTW).


84 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:53 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: steve-b

We can start calling Hillary "Madame President".


85 posted on 11/15/2006 8:00:09 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: steve-b
NO TO RUDI

bump

86 posted on 11/15/2006 8:01:58 AM PST by Fraulein
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To: Maelstrom

Yes, it was all those "stay-at-home" GOP moderates who lost the election for Allen, Santorum, and Talent. Wonder what the conservatives are going to whine about if a Guiliani administration takes office come January 20, 2009? We're moving to Canada?


87 posted on 11/15/2006 8:06:24 AM PST by medscribe
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To: steve-b
Let's get this right. It's okay to sit out or vote third-party and put the Democrats in charge of Congress if government spending and growth is too great. But, it's not okay to sit and not suppport a flaming liberal that favors every conceiveable abortion procedure, gay marriage and, no doubt, would nominate judges to the court that are Constitutionalists?

Neil Boortz is a dunce and moral midget.

Conservatism is over if someone as liberal as Gulliani ever become President and we'd be stuck with a judicial tyranny for another generation.

Screw liberaltarians that won't compromise their beliefs but demand other conservatives sellout everything they believe.

88 posted on 11/15/2006 8:28:22 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: steve-b
And, since when is protecting a baby from getting scissors stuck in the back of its neck and its brain sucked, the right to life for the unborn and protecting traditional marriage religious dogma? God, you're a moron, Neil.

And, the ironic thing is Boortz is too stupid to realize that such a flaming liberal would sellout even him out when came to the appointment of SCOTUS and other judges.

89 posted on 11/15/2006 8:32:14 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Captain Kirk
McClellan? If only Bush were a McClellan! We might have stayed out of the Iraq mess!

When you're in a war, you have to fight it and fight to win. McClellan was in a war and he refused to fight, which is exactly what Bush is doing.

Whether we want to admit it or not, the Muslim world is at war with us. The problem is that they do not value self-preservation. The MAD principle worked on the USSR because they valued theirs. Since the Muslims don't, the only way to win is to kill them before they kill us.

90 posted on 11/15/2006 8:45:12 AM PST by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: LiveFree99
Patton? More like an Eisenhower is needed.

Yep the old Neville Chamberlain plan works very well every time. Oh....Never mind

91 posted on 11/15/2006 8:55:10 AM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: Brilliant
I'll vote for Rudi.

You will vote for whom ever the RNC anoints, just like last time.

92 posted on 11/15/2006 8:58:53 AM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: itsahoot

Sorry, I'm not aware of Eisenhower's "old Neville Chamberlain plan."


93 posted on 11/15/2006 9:07:14 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: Bahbah

It would be possible to win Rudy over - him promising not to ban guns, install homo special rights or enhance abortion. But who would believe a man in a dress?


94 posted on 11/15/2006 9:29:36 AM PST by Texas Chilli
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To: Texas Chilli

LOL. The dress thing is pretty bad.


95 posted on 11/15/2006 9:31:56 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: itsahoot

Nope. I will never vote for McCrazy. If it's McCrazy v. Hillary, I'm voting Libertarian.


96 posted on 11/15/2006 9:47:35 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: TonyRo76
Actual conservatism, OTOH, succeeds every time it's tried!

Just ask Senator Keyes.

97 posted on 11/15/2006 9:50:03 AM PST by Howlin
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To: steve-b

I'd vote for Rudy because he believes in separation of religion and politics, and does not endorse using one to run the other.


98 posted on 11/15/2006 9:53:38 AM PST by LibWrangler
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To: EQAndyBuzz
. We want less government yet we are trying to impose our social agenda on the courts.

You have it exactly backward. The courts are imposing the agenda of the most morally depraved segments of our society on the majority of the American people by judicial fiat. Same sex marriage couldn't win at the ballot box in any state, but courts have imposed it on the people of MA, and are poised to do the same in NJ and CA. Abortion on demand for no other reason than the convenience of the parent or parnets would be rejected by voters in a majority of the states, but it has been imposed on every state by judicial fiat for the past 3 decades. Conservatism isn't restricted to just fiscal issues and limited government, it involves respect for traditional standards of morality and decency as well.

99 posted on 11/15/2006 10:25:28 AM PST by epow
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To: Brilliant
He supported Alito and Roberts. That's good enough for me.

Not good enough for me, I won't vote for him if he's the nominee.

It isn't as important to me how a candidate will vote or act on a major moral issue such as abortion or homosexual marriage as is his or her personal belief on the issues. If an office seeker believes a mother, or anyone else, has the right to kill an innocent human being in the womb, that person is not morally fit to hold an executive office in government, to participate in making laws and policies as a legislator, or to rule as a jurist on the constitutionality of it's laws.

The same goes for the "gay" marriage issue. A candidate who can give his or her approval for the destruction of the most basic unit of civilized society, i.e., marriage and family, doesn't have the moral character I want in a government official.

The character and moral standard of a candidate is shown by his or her stand on moral and ethical issues, and I don't trust anyone whose personal standards are low enough or flexible enough to tolerate abortion and/or approve homosexual behavior.

100 posted on 11/15/2006 10:59:33 AM PST by epow
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