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Get Out Now? Not So Fast, Experts Say
New York Times ^ | 15 November 2006 | Michael Gordon

Posted on 11/15/2006 4:31:47 AM PST by shrinkermd

WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 — One of the most resonant arguments in the debate over Iraq holds that the United States can move forward by pulling its troops back, as part of a phased withdrawal...

...This is the case now being argued by many Democrats, most notably Senator Carl Levin of Michigan... who asserts that the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq should begin within four to six months.

But this argument is being challenged by a number of military officers, experts and former generals, including some who have been among the most vehement critics of the Bush administration’s Iraq policies....

...Anthony C. Zinni, the former head of the United States Central Command and one of the retired generals who called for the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, argued that any substantial reduction of American forces over the next several months would be more likely to accelerate the slide to civil war than stop it.

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To: RoadTest

Interesting, GM in deep doo doo because of the medical and retirement system dragging them down out of the black, and they still send communists in to represent them. Go with the status quo. Guess this really isn't so shocking.

What is shocking, is how lenin and conyers think and vote. Did there Mommies not teach them anything? Where was dad during that upbringing? Seems to me we had to listen to these boys on a regular basis during the Clinton years, now we can listen again.


21 posted on 11/15/2006 5:12:28 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: mathluv

Eh. We knew this would happen. The Dems didn't want to pull out any more than the Republicans did.


22 posted on 11/15/2006 5:13:17 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: shrinkermd
One of the most resonant arguments in the debate over Iraq holds that the United States can move forward by pulling its troops back, as part of a phased withdrawal...

I wouldn't call that argument "resonant." I think "redolent" is a more accurate characterization.

23 posted on 11/15/2006 5:13:20 AM PST by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: shrinkermd

What did you expect? I've maintained that the core of the Democratic party only cares about two issues: abortion rights and gay rights. Everything else is a distraction.


24 posted on 11/15/2006 5:13:26 AM PST by atomicweeder
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To: shrinkermd

Won't all the suckers who voted for the Dems because of their promises for troop withdrawal be surprised.


25 posted on 11/15/2006 5:17:25 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tgambill

ping to post 14


26 posted on 11/15/2006 5:19:09 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: shrinkermd
Some military experts said that while the American military is stretched thin, the number of American troops in Iraq could be increased temporarily — by perhaps 10,000 or more, in addition to the 150,000 or so already there — by prolonging combat tours.

Sounds like the astute "military experts" referenced in this article have taken a page out of McCain's book. The DBM wants McCain to be the GOP nominee in 2008 in the worst way. Be very wary of what the DBM wants as it will usually be contrary to the best interests of the GOP .

27 posted on 11/15/2006 5:20:05 AM PST by randita
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To: mathluv

These experts from day one have been attack Rummy for not putting enough troops in Iraq.


28 posted on 11/15/2006 5:24:01 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Yeah in 2008 . The democratic party does not want to see Iran control Iraq and the 2nd largest kwown il reserves in Iraq hands with a nuke staring down the US. They could get a president elected must less hold congrss


29 posted on 11/15/2006 5:27:35 AM PST by scooby321
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To: shrinkermd
Now the NY Times comes out with this, also comes out with the dirt on Murtha and Abramoff is going to reveal the Democrats he has dealt with. Where was all this before the election, hmmmm? The whole lot of them, politicians and media whores alike, disgust me.

Carolyn

30 posted on 11/15/2006 5:27:43 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: BunnySlippers

"All of a sudden the NYT sees reasons to stay!"

We are going to stay. Then the articles about how we are building Iraq are going to start appearing. Figure January 20.

The RATS will take credit for forcing change on Bush.

And of course who is the only RAT Presidential candidate that supported the war effort?

Hillary!!


31 posted on 11/15/2006 5:29:26 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: rhombus
Cut and Run becomes Bait and Switch

DING-DING-DING-DING

The Free Republic quote of the day!

32 posted on 11/15/2006 5:35:49 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Tennessee - The last Conservative rock sticking above a deep blue sea....)
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To: Oberon

I know - but their base did.


33 posted on 11/15/2006 5:40:40 AM PST by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: jmc1969

They attacked Rummy for daring to try to change the type of miltary we had, and stepping on their toes.


34 posted on 11/15/2006 5:41:35 AM PST by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: shrinkermd

and the insurgents.... the experts there welcomed the democrats... suggesting the democrats were right, they should get out now... that Bush and Rumsfeld were a circus of failed american policy


35 posted on 11/15/2006 5:48:51 AM PST by himno hero
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To: mathluv

Sorry, but they did not go public with their complaints until after the Iraq War.

And, those that opposed Rumsfeld on the size of the Army were correct as well. I see endless attacks here about Clinton cutting the size of the Army, but Rummy supported such cuts and refused to increase the size of the Army after 911. Rummy supports an Army so small we have to use National Guards in large numbers in Iraq and Afghanistan to keep the Army from breaking.


36 posted on 11/15/2006 5:51:52 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: capitalist229

The Democrats calling for an Iraq withrawl timetable of four to six months should be responded to with: "How about today?"



37 posted on 11/15/2006 6:12:18 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: wita

"Interesting, GM in deep doo doo because of the medical and retirement system dragging them down out of the black, and they still send communists in to represent them."

It's complicated. GM people aren't voting for them but UAW members are. What's complicated is that the UAW workers work for GM as well as for the UAW and its Leftist affiliates. GM dragged that Trojan horse inside it walls decades ago and has been sorry ever since.

UAW is thick with the most Left-wing elements of the Dimbulb party. It sometimes seems as though their agenda is the destruction of GM, Ford, Chrysler and the United States.


38 posted on 11/15/2006 6:30:13 AM PST by RoadTest ( He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. -Rev. 3:6)
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To: capitalist229

yeahhhhh, someone gets it....nice to meet you. Ah, how about the stock crash and the martial law curve ball. :)

Are you saying that we are having shades of WWII in 1940......? We wouldn't put an embargo on Iran or conduct exercises just off their coast.


39 posted on 11/15/2006 6:33:35 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

And you better bet that Hillary will take all the credit for being in Iraq.

NYT couldn't see any reason to be in Iraq til the Dims won. Now they're all over it.


40 posted on 11/15/2006 6:40:55 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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