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1 posted on 11/15/2006 3:19:34 AM PST by The Wizard
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I hope my fellow Freepers will stand with Rudy and not be swayed by the terrible lies that are about to come...


2 posted on 11/15/2006 3:20:35 AM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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But here it is easy to disagree with Rudy and his admirers. He has no chance of winning the Republican nomination, and, even if he did, he would not make a good president. His views on core cultural issues are too radical.

Giuliani is not just pro-abortion, he is pro-partial-birth abortion. He has not flinched from defending the legality of the gruesome practice that the late Democratic Sen. Patrick Moynihan of New York described “as close to infanticide.”

“I am pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said in 1999, when he was contemplating a Senate campaign. When a reporter asked if he at least favored a ban on partial-birth abortion, Giuliani said, “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.”

Giuliani’s pro-gay rights position is so extreme, he advocated stripping away the special legal status of traditional marriage. In 1998, he pushed a municipal ordinance that wiped out all distinctions between married and unmarried couples in New York City law, regardless of their gender.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18047


3 posted on 11/15/2006 3:21:33 AM PST by JockoManning (FORGET IT RUDY)
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Fair enough. I doubt his "values" are my values, but for the sake of argument, don't leave these "lies" out there without a defense. Give us some examples, with your rebuttal.


9 posted on 11/15/2006 3:31:04 AM PST by jammer
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This is a sign, right??

End of Days and all that???

Rudy for Prez on FR ???

Do I have to go over to DU to find a conservative view now??

Have you all gone completely over the edge ??

10 posted on 11/15/2006 3:33:12 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom... Not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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I'm in. I don't agree with all his positions, but I think he's the right man for the job.
16 posted on 11/15/2006 3:39:59 AM PST by Bernard (Going without a tagline to see how it feels.)
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20 posted on 11/15/2006 3:45:10 AM PST by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998. (stolen from one cool dude))
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I'm with you, Wiz, because War on Islamofascists is my number one issue. Those who say Rudy can't win the nomination are parroting pundits and ignoring evidence. If the staunchly conservative base was so strong and so effective, we'd have more staunch conservatives in Congress.

Having said that, Rudy should take Ann Coulter's advice and lay out his positions afresh--now that he's no longer mayor of the Soviet Union.

21 posted on 11/15/2006 3:48:45 AM PST by RedRover (Support the Troops, the Pride of Our Nation--Please Visit DogMurtha.com)
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Hi All-

The Wizard, he is a decent gentleman on a personal basis...but I will never vote for Rudy Giuliani based on his horrible anti-RKBA stance alone. He better than others should recognize the threat against society as we know it and the need for decent men and women to secure our homeland.

~ Blue Jays ~

22 posted on 11/15/2006 3:49:47 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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SAY NO TO RUDY!

I know I'll say this a lot in the future, so I'll just make it my tagline.

23 posted on 11/15/2006 3:50:48 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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One of the best things Rudy did was to return that $10 million 'gift' from the Saudi after 9/11 who wanted to bring up "root causes" of terrorism.


26 posted on 11/15/2006 3:54:00 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Rudy is better than McCain and Hillary)
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I think its extremely important to have a Repub nominee who can defeat Hitlery. If Rudy could defeat her (even though he isn't a conservative Repub) so be it!
28 posted on 11/15/2006 3:57:37 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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Rudy For President

NO!

32 posted on 11/15/2006 4:00:00 AM PST by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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or the fact that he actually does not agree with every conservative position, but I say this election, the office of the president, it too important to be held hostage to "every stinking" ideal we all hold true....

So much for the post-election Principle before Party bandwagon. It lasted around here for, what, about a week?

If anyone is being "held hostage" it is not our politicians but us.

34 posted on 11/15/2006 4:01:57 AM PST by Fraulein
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Rudy is the only rep who doesn't have the "wuss" factor. He will rip new ones everywhere.


36 posted on 11/15/2006 4:04:15 AM PST by tkathy (The choice is clear: White hat people or white flag people.)
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I like Rudy on certain things.

But is it true he is for gay marriage? If so...I certainly will NOT consider him.

38 posted on 11/15/2006 4:04:38 AM PST by what's up
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I will vote for Rudy, or McCain, or a chimpanzee in order to stop Hillary from gaining the White House.


40 posted on 11/15/2006 4:06:12 AM PST by gonewt
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As long as he is willing to support pro-choice (murder of life) then as far as I'm concerned he is nothing short of an agent of the devil so I can never support him. This has been a battle that we have come so close to winning but because of liberal judges and politicians like him we can not put a W for WIN in our column and save lives. Sorry, just not going to happen with my support.
46 posted on 11/15/2006 4:13:01 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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You may be conservative, but your candidate is sure as hell not. I wish he were - he otherwise seems like a standup guy, but were he to gain the nomination, the volunteers that it takes to actually win elections out here in the heartland will stay home in droves. He has no chance of winning.


54 posted on 11/15/2006 4:24:43 AM PST by LouD
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I have no problem voting for Rudy, but the FReeper candidate of choice is going to be a 3rd party candidate that has yet to emerge. His issues will be building a fence, deporting illegals, and making abortion illegal. He'll spout a hard core right agenda that will make him completely unelectable but will guarantee between 10 and 15 percent of the vote. If you trace the funding of this candidate back far enough, you see Hillary and Soros behind it.

It's coming, I promise you.
58 posted on 11/15/2006 4:26:58 AM PST by MMcC
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If you don't support the Second Amendment, then you will not have my vote. All indications are that Rudy is hostile to the Second.


69 posted on 11/15/2006 4:46:54 AM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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