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President Rudy Giuliani?
Forbes ^ | 11/14/2006 | Nathan Vardi

Posted on 11/14/2006 11:02:49 AM PST by Dark Skies

Giuliani has been carefully preparing for this moment. He spent the past election season accumulating a reservoir of good will among Republicans, campaigning hard for Republican candidates from Oregon to New Hampshire. He was particularly adept at raising money for those candidates and has established himself as one of few presidential hopefuls capable of raising the $100 million or so that is seen as necessary to win the White House. At the moment, he is getting help from Anne Dickerson, who ran President Bush’s highly successful Pioneer and Ranger fundraising machine in 2004.

Giuliani has allied closely with Bush & Co. He made a high profile speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention and has gone on the road to stump with President Bush. There has also been speculation, started by the Washington Post's Kathleen Parker, that Ken Mehlman, the outgoing Republican National Committee chairman and former Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign manager, will be joining the Giuliani camp.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; anti2nd; antigun; giuliani; nextpresidentoftheus; openborders; partialbirthabort; proabort; proamnesty; rino; rudy
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"Faux Conservatives?" What the liberal Rudy supporters don't understand is that a large number of conservatives actually vote their moral and religious convictions.


581 posted on 11/15/2006 8:43:31 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: sitetest

What nonsense. If Laci gave her "permission" Scott would still have been prosecuted for murdering Connor. Such exaggerations are one reason the Right is so easy to caricature and write off as fanatics and extremists.

Had Laci been on the way to an Abortion Clinic Scott would STILL have been charged with two murders.

No a zygote is NOT a human being it is many months away from being a human being. Potential is not the same as Actual. Even your description of its being is not correct.


582 posted on 11/15/2006 8:45:07 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: SUSSA

It is an attempt to distort reality to pretend that these men were Illegal aliens as the term is commonly used. Terorrism does not use illegal aliens for good reasons. Had Atta's handlers realized he had overstayed the visa they would have been more concerned that he get it straightened out than the authorities since it could have endangered the plot.

Such an incident would not happen today and he would likely be jailed upon discovery and deported.

Mexicans, Irish and Poles coming here to work are not a national security threat your pretensions to the contrary are just that.


583 posted on 11/15/2006 8:49:54 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: TommyDale

What I understand is that there are some here who are the Right wing equivalent of the DUmmies of the Left who believe they can shove their extremist views on a nation which is not extreme.

They are a danger to the GOP and were roundly rejected by the electorate last week.

No "moral" or "religious" conviction is going to dictate refusing to vote for the person most capable and likely to defend this nation. There is NO religous person able to convincingly rationalize allowing HIllary Clinton to take the White House.


584 posted on 11/15/2006 8:53:45 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

You actually believe that Christian conservatives will trash their beliefs and vote for an abortionist, just because the opponent is Hillary Clinton? I say that if you want to win an election in 2008, and we all do, don't run someone who forces that sort of decision.


585 posted on 11/15/2006 8:56:12 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: TommyDale

I don't believe you have a clue as to what Christians, conservatives or Christian conservatives think about this. Most simply are not fanatics which is where you go wrong.

I believe they are unpredictable and cannot be relied upon IF they actually would allow Hillary into the White House.
Hence, I won't worry about them.


586 posted on 11/15/2006 9:04:04 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Dear justshutupandtakeit,

"If Laci gave her 'permission' Scott would still have been prosecuted for murdering Connor."

If Laci had requested an abortion - from anyone - and that person had committed an abortion, the individual performing the murder of Conner wouldn't have been prosecuted for murder.

Folks aren't prosecuted for murder for killing unborn children when the mother consents to the killing. That's why abortionists don't go to prison anymore.

"No a zygote is NOT a human being it is many months away from being a human being. Potential is not the same as Actual. Even your description of its being is not correct."

That's a bald assertion on your part. A zygote is an actual being, and a functioning member of the species homo sapiens. He or she has a bit of a ways to go before he or she might, say, post on Free Republic, but the being is living, developing, self-organizing, self-directing, and clearly human.

Against those facts, you blindly assert your unsupported view of things. All you do is close your eyes and say, "I can't see that it's a human! I can't see that it's a human!"

Kinda sad.


sitetest


587 posted on 11/15/2006 9:06:39 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"I believe they are unpredictable and cannot be relied upon IF they actually would allow Hillary into the White House. Hence, I won't worry about them."

That just about sums up how the liberals will demolish the party in 2008.

588 posted on 11/15/2006 9:08:21 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: sitetest

False.

False.

False.

False. A potential human is not an actual human.

Humans are easy to identify as are potential humans.


589 posted on 11/15/2006 9:15:17 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: TommyDale

Liberals have nothing to say about the GOP and won't. Those who are not faux conservatives are not liberals.


590 posted on 11/15/2006 9:16:24 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Liz

The Rudyinskis are liberals. Rudy Giuliani is a liberal. Those of us who have been die-hard conservatives for years are not going to roll over and play dead for a GOP hijacking by New York liberals.


591 posted on 11/15/2006 9:21:24 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Dear justshutupandtakeit,

I see lots of assertions but no logical argument, no facts in evidence, no effort at persuasion. Just a diktat from your personal belief system about these mythical unicorn-like creatures called "potential humans."

In any event, I believe that the Republican Party, as a matter of official policy, has adopted the scientifically-supported position that unborn human beings are, well, human beings, and deserve the recognition and protection of their fundamental human rights.

If you wish to belong to a party that has adopted, as a matter of official policy, your unsupported assertions, then I believe the appropriate next step is to change one's party affiliation to Democrat.

Perhaps you might call Mr. Giuliani and take him with you?


sitetest


592 posted on 11/15/2006 9:23:45 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Your attempt to distort the truth is a transparant dodge. Had Atta's handlers realized he had overstayed the visa they would have been more concerned that he get it straightened out than the authorities since it could have endangered the plot.

They didn’t care because liberals refuse to let the local cops check people’s status. Far leftist mayors like Rudy make our cities sanctuaries for illegal aliens, some of whom are here to do us harm.

Such an incident would not happen today and he would likely be jailed upon discovery and deported.

To make a statement like that, you're either intentionally being dishonest, or are seriously out of touch with reality. The Bush administration makes local cops go to school before they are allowed to arrest an illegal alien for being an illegal alien. New York, Chicago, LA, and Houston are all sanctuary cities. City employees including cops aren’t allowed to even ask about an alien’s status. Today illegal aliens walk away from local cops every day just like Atta did in 2001. In sanctuary cities like New York city employees are bared from turning in illegal aliens.

593 posted on 11/15/2006 9:27:00 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: TommyDale

"Die hard conservatives" cannot produce an alternative capable of winning. So they have pretty much isolated themselves and made themselves irrelevant.

In fact, few things are more amusing than watching a name of good, long time conservatives get thrown out as a potential then watch the knives come out as the "conservatives" cut them apart for not being conservative enough.

Everyone sees through this crap.


594 posted on 11/15/2006 9:39:37 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: SUSSA

Terrorist planners choose their workers very carefully and are very concerned that they not come into conflict or contact with the law. They made sure to choose the majority of them for 911 from Saudi Arabia PRECISELY because there would be no problem getting them into the country since special arrangements between the US and SA were in effect. They are not now.

It is not I who am being dishonest but you. Have you forgotten (or hope everyone else has forgotten) the HUGE uproar last spring when the Egyptian students did not arrive on time on campus. There was Nationwide publicity, a nationwide manhunt, quick arrests and quick deportation.

And some of these arrests came in the Sanctuary cities.

I have the same disdain for the politicos who have designated their cities as such as you have but don't exaggerate the impact of such nonsense.

NONE of these cities will provide sanctuary for an Arab, Moslem or Middle Easterner. You know as well as I do that they are only speaking for Mexicans/Latinos.


595 posted on 11/15/2006 9:48:12 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Any nominee will have to unite the factions. We'll see who can do it -- Rudy or someone more "moderate to conservative".


596 posted on 11/15/2006 9:51:22 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I have the same disdain for the politicos who have designated their cities as such as you have

It's good to hear you have the same disdain I have for Rudi.

NONE of these cities will provide sanctuary for an Arab, Moslem or Middle Easterner. You know as well as I do that they are only speaking for Mexicans/Latinos.

Right now, today, my cousin is an EMT in Brooklyn. He isn’t allowed to ask Arabs or anyone else about their legal status and if he discovers it, isn’t allowed to turn them in unless the feds come to him and ask specifically about a person. Ask any NYC cop, fireman, teacher, EMT, they aren’t just banned from asking Mexicans their status, it’s everyone.

597 posted on 11/15/2006 10:01:38 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I know, it's been pretty easy to spot some this past couple of weeks.


598 posted on 11/15/2006 10:23:29 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Yes it does and thanks for all that you do for those of us that wear the uniform.


599 posted on 11/15/2006 11:47:17 AM PST by Warrior Nurse (I am starting another underground railroad to help blacks escape from the Democratic plantation.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I forgot about Chicago! You are correct! Sickening isn't it?


600 posted on 11/15/2006 11:59:10 AM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy for 2008)
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