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President Rudy Giuliani?
Forbes ^ | 11/14/2006 | Nathan Vardi

Posted on 11/14/2006 11:02:49 AM PST by Dark Skies

Giuliani has been carefully preparing for this moment. He spent the past election season accumulating a reservoir of good will among Republicans, campaigning hard for Republican candidates from Oregon to New Hampshire. He was particularly adept at raising money for those candidates and has established himself as one of few presidential hopefuls capable of raising the $100 million or so that is seen as necessary to win the White House. At the moment, he is getting help from Anne Dickerson, who ran President Bush’s highly successful Pioneer and Ranger fundraising machine in 2004.

Giuliani has allied closely with Bush & Co. He made a high profile speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention and has gone on the road to stump with President Bush. There has also been speculation, started by the Washington Post's Kathleen Parker, that Ken Mehlman, the outgoing Republican National Committee chairman and former Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign manager, will be joining the Giuliani camp.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; anti2nd; antigun; giuliani; nextpresidentoftheus; openborders; partialbirthabort; proabort; proamnesty; rino; rudy
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To: TommyDale
Why not just go get the actual video from the Donohue interview, and the CNN Inside Politics video and listen?

Do you have a link?

201 posted on 11/14/2006 12:46:36 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: jalisco555
As an extreme example, keep in mind that Adolph Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, and Joe Stalin were all great communicators. I think we'd agree that their leadership qualities were less than desireable, not because they were not competent at leading, but because of the direction they led. (No, I am not comparing Rudy to that bunch, just making a point.)

The midterms turned out badly for the Republicans because people felt they were not going in the right direction. Getting away from those core conservative issues will do nothing to address the disenfranchisement those voters feel.

Get back to basics. The border. The war. Property owner's rights. Abortion/embryonic research (Do you realize that for many of us who believe life begins at conception, just paying our taxes makes us an accessory to murder if the FedGov contributes anything to abortion? Fourty Five Million since Roe v Wade. )Fiscal restraint (oops)/ Pork. Smaller Government. No new gun control (ideally repeal of some laws there). No "gay marriage". There is room for compatible viewpoints on many of these issues in the 'big' tent, issues which individually or in aggregate will bring conservatives back to the party, and which I believe 'moderates' will be able to embrace as well.

For those of you who live in NYC, I'll grant things are different, but to some of us who live out here, it looks like an apocalyptic vision from another planet. To each their own.

I do think we can find enough basic issues which we can all agree on, as Conservatives, and a candidate who will reflect that aggregate belief and be able to communicate that.

Keep in mind that Rudy as Liberal in NYC will get one media response from the MSM, Rudy against Hillary will get an entirely different one, and that will not be pretty.

His most articulate turns of phrase will be voice-overed or just end up on the cutting room floor. Any gaffes will be played ad nauseum, and the MSM will do all in its power to alienate the Base from Rudy so Hillary can get in. Bank on it.

One Rockefeller Center et. al. will no longer view Rudy as one of their own, but the enemy.

We need someone who has far fewer skeletons in the closet, and a far more compatible track record. It will be an uphill battle either way, but far steeper, slipperier, and nastier if our POTUS candidate cannot pass scrutiny, and the MSM, once hostile (and they will be), will shred Rudy nightly.

202 posted on 11/14/2006 12:46:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Dark Skies

My quote was sourced to Newsday, not Newsmax.


203 posted on 11/14/2006 12:47:07 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

If the GOP feilds a pack of liberal RINO's, they will LOSE.


204 posted on 11/14/2006 12:48:02 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: chad_in_georgia

BUMP


205 posted on 11/14/2006 12:48:28 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; All

"Hillary's Secret War" by Richard Poe is an excellent place to start. It details how she would like to silence sites like FR.

He also has a new book out called, "The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and Sixties Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party." I haven't read that yet, but another Freeper told me it is excellent, as well.


206 posted on 11/14/2006 12:48:46 PM PST by retrokitten (retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: hosepipe

He "may" be a liberal on things that we don't want him messing with anyway because of States Rights. What he is that we want in a President is tough on crime, tough on the war and tough on the borders and a fiscal conservative.


207 posted on 11/14/2006 12:48:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dead Corpse
Don't worry pal, this is your alternative. Go for it dude!


208 posted on 11/14/2006 12:49:28 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: Reagan Man
Seems like Rockefeller Republicans are making a comeback right here on Free Republic.

I've noticed. I think a lot of them vote for Dims so Rudy is no big thing for them. We haven't heard much from the real Rudy-basher, native New Yorkers who aren't on the Rudy bandwagon. I've been on some of those threads and their critiques of Giuliani make it clear how poor a candidate he is and how Hitlery will make mincemeat of him.
209 posted on 11/14/2006 12:49:29 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Dark Skies

Newsday September 1, 1989:

Giuliani says that he so strongly favored abortion, "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

Go call Newsday and tell them they were lying. If they were, why hasn't Giuliani sued them for libel? Because he knows he said it!


210 posted on 11/14/2006 12:49:55 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Stag_Man
We are fighting a WAR right now. We do not have this luxury.

Exactly! I remember when Rudy reached out to the people of Oklahoma City when the terrorist bombed the Murrah Building. This State will always be grateful to Rudy and in return when 9/ll happened, we reached out to NYC and to Rudy. Oklahomans for the most part will put national security above any other issue in this time of war.

211 posted on 11/14/2006 12:49:58 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy/JC Watts in 2008!)
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To: Spiff

Sounds like a train wreck!


212 posted on 11/14/2006 12:50:21 PM PST by ustanker (The cave dwellers are happy!)
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To: American Butterfly

Love your screen name!


213 posted on 11/14/2006 12:50:33 PM PST by retrokitten (retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: PhiKapMom
Notice how fast you can find the facts and how the other side tries to pass off lies for facts?

Funny, isn't it?

214 posted on 11/14/2006 12:50:43 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: areafiftyone

Dear areafiftyone,

"THAT WAS DEBUNKED!"

No, it wasn't.

At the best, he can claim to be "personally opposed, but categorically in favor of abortion rights in law, up to and including paying for his own daughter's abortion, if she really wanted to have one."

That doesn't really get him in the clear on the issue of abortion.

However he may personally feel about murdering unborn babies, he's a pro-abort. He believes so strongly in a RIGHT to procure the murder of one's unborn baby, that he'd pay for his own daughter to get one.


sitetest


215 posted on 11/14/2006 12:51:03 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: John Lenin
You idiots are the ones driving us towards that. Not us conservatives.

Just keep pushing your RINO's in an attempt to get Hillary elected. We understand what you are trying to do.

216 posted on 11/14/2006 12:51:03 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: TommyDale

His personal life has nothing to do with WOT and things that are of earth shattering importance in this day and time. He has the ba!!s to stand up to Islamists and that buys him a lot of brownie points.


217 posted on 11/14/2006 12:51:11 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: marinamuffy

What I wanted to do with the post is to get people to think so you have made my day!


218 posted on 11/14/2006 12:51:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy/JC Watts in 2008!)
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To: TommyDale

You don't have to scream.


219 posted on 11/14/2006 12:51:35 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
There is a ocean of differences between Rudy and Hillary.

The verity of that statement depends where on the political spectrum you are. From my viewpoint their views on personal freedom and limited government aren't all that different.

220 posted on 11/14/2006 12:51:53 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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