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President Rudy Giuliani?
Forbes ^ | 11/14/2006 | Nathan Vardi

Posted on 11/14/2006 11:02:49 AM PST by Dark Skies

Giuliani has been carefully preparing for this moment. He spent the past election season accumulating a reservoir of good will among Republicans, campaigning hard for Republican candidates from Oregon to New Hampshire. He was particularly adept at raising money for those candidates and has established himself as one of few presidential hopefuls capable of raising the $100 million or so that is seen as necessary to win the White House. At the moment, he is getting help from Anne Dickerson, who ran President Bush’s highly successful Pioneer and Ranger fundraising machine in 2004.

Giuliani has allied closely with Bush & Co. He made a high profile speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention and has gone on the road to stump with President Bush. There has also been speculation, started by the Washington Post's Kathleen Parker, that Ken Mehlman, the outgoing Republican National Committee chairman and former Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign manager, will be joining the Giuliani camp.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; anti2nd; antigun; giuliani; nextpresidentoftheus; openborders; partialbirthabort; proabort; proamnesty; rino; rudy
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To: areafiftyone

Polls are one thing an election is another. But even if he could win New York, he can't win in the heartland.

No Republican can win nationally without the conservatives. George the Elder and Bob Dole showed that.

Nominating Rudy will destroy the Republican party.


161 posted on 11/14/2006 12:33:00 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: PhiKapMom
Excellent Post

162 posted on 11/14/2006 12:33:03 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Stag_Man

My mistake. I meant to post to #108.


163 posted on 11/14/2006 12:34:26 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Reagan Man

You could almost ask this question. Is there any evidence that Giuliani is any stronger on defense than Lieberman?

If not, shouldn't we just nominate Lieberman?


164 posted on 11/14/2006 12:34:56 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: hosepipe
He cleaned up NYC and resulted in significantly increased tourism and a return of major business to NYC that were moving out to NJ and parts beyond..

He understood his city and what was wrong and he sat out to fix it and believe me he wasn't always popular for doing so, I know because I visit often and cab drives for one were very upset because he made it very difficult for them to do things that virtually stole from their fares...

NYC before Rudy had become a crime cellpool, under Rudy it became a wonderful place (to visit) once again and under Bloomberg I see it backsliding at each visit.

Rudy is a leader, not a follower. So like or dislike the man, he is what he is, an imperfect human being... like most of us since none of us are God.

165 posted on 11/14/2006 12:35:07 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dark Skies
..for no other reason (and there are many)

I would never want a man in the Whitehouse who has pictures floating around the web with him in drag...

166 posted on 11/14/2006 12:35:19 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: John Lenin
Right now Rudy is the best we have.

BS. Hunter. Tancredo. Pawlenty...

You WANT Rudy for some unfathomable reason. Is it because you think he looks smashing in drag?

His anti-gun stance alone is enough to rule him out in my book.

167 posted on 11/14/2006 12:35:21 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: PhiKapMom

PK Mom, EXCELLENT POST !!!.....keep up the good work !


168 posted on 11/14/2006 12:35:42 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: SUSSA

The Giuliani liberals will cause a split in the GOP, then try to blame it on the conservative wing of the party for not jumping in and supporting him lockstep, just as they are trying to blame the conservatives for not winning this past week's election. They want to overlook the Ken Mehlmans and Rudy Giuliani liberalization and compromise of principles.


169 posted on 11/14/2006 12:35:43 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: padre35

I think Rudy would crush Hillary in NY State.


170 posted on 11/14/2006 12:36:10 PM PST by Collier
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To: PhiKapMom
Dole. Bush. Now Rudy and McLame.

Sorry. No more "moving LEFT to the center" just to get elected. In case you didn't notice, the Left just keeps moving FURTHER left.

171 posted on 11/14/2006 12:36:44 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Reagan Man

Before 9/11, he threw out Arafat.


172 posted on 11/14/2006 12:37:15 PM PST by Collier
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To: SUSSA
No Republican can win nationally without the conservatives. George the Elder and Bob Dole showed that.

Bears repeating.
173 posted on 11/14/2006 12:37:54 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Dark Skies; TommyDale
Rudy Giuliani said he would pay for his own daughter to have an abortion!

THAT WAS DEBUNKED! Here is the link to the article The comment - gleaned from a compilation of Giuliani quotes circulated by critics!

Giuliani Clarifies Abortion Remarks

174 posted on 11/14/2006 12:38:47 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: TommyDale
lol...putting comments in quotes doesn't qualify as linking to a source.

Here's a clarification on the lie you are spreading (and a link to its source)...

Giuliani Clarifies Abortion Remarks

Probable 2008 presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani clarified on Thursday comments about abortion he made during his first run for New York City mayor, saying recent reports have taken his words out of context.

The comment - gleaned from a compilation of Giuliani quotes circulated by critics - had the former mayor telling talk host Phil Donahue, "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

But a transcript of the interview supplied by his office shows that Giuliani wasn't as stridently in favor of abortion as the lone comment suggests.

Here's the full exchange between the former mayor and Donahue, which appeared in the Sept. 1, 1989 edition of Newsday.

DONAHUE: You have apparently found yourself on the great trap door called abortion. And not a few so-called experts believe that the agonized approach that you've brought to this issue accounts for the decline in your position in the polls.

GIULIANI: Maybe people don't understand that I didn't start all this as a politician would start it, with some canned answer. I thought about it a lot. In my discussion of it, I may have thought out loud a bit.

I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

DONAHUE: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

GIULIANI: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it.

And if that's my private resolution of it, that's the way I have to resolve it publicly. [END OF EXCERPT]

Source: Newsmax.com


175 posted on 11/14/2006 12:39:25 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Closed minds of social conservatives will cost us the election in 2008.

You just don't get it. To real conservatives voting for Guiliani is NO DIFFERENT THAN VOTING FOR CLINTON. Both of them cost us the election in the sense that a left wing liberal gets elected. It doesn't matter if there is a D or and R if neither candidate is substantively different on the issues: Clinton & Guiliani both anti-gun. Guiliani and Clinton both pro abortion. Guiliani and Clinton both pro gay marriage. Guiliani and Clinton both pro bigger government. etc.

176 posted on 11/14/2006 12:39:32 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Dead Corpse
Hunter. Tancredo. Pawlenty...

Too bad they don't have a chance of winning the GOP nomination. Are you happy the RATS are in charge because of your protest vote?
177 posted on 11/14/2006 12:39:58 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: Dead Corpse

In a normal year those three would be great candidates. However, we are talking 2008 and facing the Clinton Machine in at best a 40/40/20 country.


178 posted on 11/14/2006 12:40:04 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: areafiftyone

Oh! Did he debunk these too? LOL!

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion: "I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal. I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ... Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy. Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."


Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion: "I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999


179 posted on 11/14/2006 12:40:08 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Thank you for the change. Much appreciated.


180 posted on 11/14/2006 12:40:14 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy/JC Watts in 2008!)
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