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Snow pulls out Constitution as prop
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 13, 2006 | Les Linsolving

Posted on 11/14/2006 10:23:51 AM PST by ovrtaxt

Snow pulls out Constitution as prop

Tells reporter he sees nothing there about 'party composition' of Senate


Posted: November 13, 2006
4:37 p.m. Eastern

By Les Kinsolving

© 2006 

Presidential press secretary Tony Snow today pulled out a copy of the U.S. Constitution in hopes the document might help him answer a question from WND about whether or not Democrats can legally claim a majority in the U.S. Senate come January.

The spokesman was asked if legal action might ensue since Democrats in the new Congress will hold only 49 seats but still claim the majority because the two independents in the body – Rep. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut – say they will caucus with the Democrats.

"In the primary election in Connecticut, the Democratic Party, as you know, repudiated Senator Lieberman who went on to be the winner as an independent," noted WND. "And the Democratic Party did not even have a nominee for the U.S. Senate in Vermont. Yet, they are claiming these two winners helped them constitute a majority in the Senate. And my question, doesn't the president believe this 'Democrats claim everybody' theory should and could be tested in court?

Responded Snow: "Lester, as you know, when it comes to the organization of Congress, people get to decide with whom they will caucus. And the indications are that Bernard Sanders and Joe Lieberman would caucus with Democrats. This is not something subject to court order, it is their personal choice."

"How can the Democrats claim that they've got a majority if two of them were not elected as Democrats?" countered WND.

At that point, Snow pulled out a document, but reporters initially didn't know what it was.

"Is that Geneva Convention?" one reporter asked.

"I don't see anything here that has to do with party composition and the proper selection," Snow said, looking at the document.

"Is that Mao's Little Red Book?" another reporter suggested.

"Oh, watch it. This is the Constitution – with a flag on it," Snow revealed.

WND also asked Snow today for his reaction to the most recent insult of Vice President Cheney by Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

"I'm not going to comment, but thank you," responded Snow.


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Connecticut; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: leskinsolving; tonysnow
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To: ovrtaxt; y'all
"-- I don't see anything here that has to do with party composition and the proper selection," Snow said, looking at the document. --"


He should have then referred them to Article I, Sec 5; -- "Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings;"...
-- And then referred them to Article VI:

"-- The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; --"

That's what they all ~really~ need to hear..
41 posted on 11/14/2006 11:52:49 AM PST by tpaine
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To: HarleyLady27

see post #41


42 posted on 11/14/2006 12:12:07 PM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: tpaine

you keep this up, pretty soon you'll have everybody reading that document.


43 posted on 11/14/2006 12:13:25 PM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: stylin19a

You say it like that's a "bad" thing... ;-)


44 posted on 11/14/2006 12:39:12 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: HarleyLady27
well if the senate can make up their own rules, then republicans have how many votes, and the rat patrol has how many votes...then to equal those two parties, doesn't the independents have to have equal amounts also??? If no, then the independents have no say....they are neither Republican nor rat patrol....so I would say the senate belongs to the Republicans....
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The independents get to choose with whom they caucus. They will caucus with the Democrats.

1970-1976 James Buckley, Conservative Party from New York caucused with the Republicans. There were no complaints.

Even if you're elected as a member of a specific party, you don't have to caucus with them. Jim Jeffords proved that.
45 posted on 11/14/2006 12:40:55 PM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: dalereed
If Lieberman jumsps to the Republicans Chaffee will jump to the democraps.
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Chaffee can jump his way to the unemployment line. He won't be in the Senate come January. And until then the Republicans have a majority, with or without Chafee.
46 posted on 11/14/2006 12:45:25 PM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: stylin19a
"-- The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; --"

That's what they all ~really~ need to hear..

you keep this up, pretty soon you'll have everybody reading that document.

That'll be the day..

47 posted on 11/14/2006 1:10:41 PM PST by tpaine
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To: ovrtaxt
WND jumped the shark when it started promoting intelligent design. But this stupid question is a new low.

The positions of "majority leader" and such aren't in the constitution. The Senate constitutionally has the power to control it's own organization, and if a court intervened it would be violating the separation of powers.

48 posted on 11/14/2006 1:13:01 PM PST by narby
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To: ovrtaxt

Would a Libertarian caucas with Republicans?


49 posted on 11/14/2006 1:16:09 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: HarleyLady27
I read the constitution, and it says that there has to be more of one than another, didn't say how many more...so I am guessing that like Republicans 50/ rat patrol 49 and 2 independents....

Where is in the Constitution you read anything about party affiliation? The senate is free to organize itself in any way they want, using any rules they want. If they make up rules about majority this and minority that, that's their own choice, and the idea that a court could challenge a co-equal branch of government on the subject of Senate rules is just stupid.

50 posted on 11/14/2006 1:18:43 PM PST by narby
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To: TexasCajun

Tony should have started reading it out loud. As he continues, they should note who leaves (and the order in which they leave). Bet Gregory would be the first out the door.


51 posted on 11/14/2006 1:19:27 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: narby

I used that as an example....sorry I should have put that in there....it did say that they can basically do whatever they want, I just wanted to know if that way was what they were talking about, as example:


52 posted on 11/14/2006 1:23:34 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: ovrtaxt
At that point, Snow pulled out a document, but reporters initially didn't know what it was.

Wait a minute. A politician's spokesman has a copy of the Constitution? I would recommend getting it to politicians from both parties but then again it wouldn't really matter would it? They haven't bothered with that document except of course when it comes in handy as a crutch to support their immediate causes

53 posted on 11/14/2006 1:27:20 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: mrsmith

lol that's hilarious!


54 posted on 11/14/2006 1:28:21 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Well, they wanted to be just like the Dems. Now, they're just like the Dems.)
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To: CollegeRepublican; All

I'm cracking up here reading these replies- doesn't everyone here realize that Kinsolving is the biggest smartass in DC? The guy is great! Lighten up, Freepers.


55 posted on 11/14/2006 1:35:36 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Well, they wanted to be just like the Dems. Now, they're just like the Dems.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I get to listen to Les on the radio sometimes; he is great. He was hard on Michael Steele running here in Maryland, but I don't hold it against him. He does get a kick out of tweaking the press secretary.

He asked the last guy about the amnesty bill and would it be a breach of the Presidential oath of office if Bush signed it into law, since he is the chief law enforcement officer in the nation.
56 posted on 11/14/2006 5:10:53 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: RaceBannon; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys; monafelice; ...

Connecticut ping!

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.

57 posted on 11/14/2006 9:23:27 PM PST by nutmeg (In 2008 we will crush the Democrats like the cockroaches they are! -- Mark Levin 11-8-06)
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To: dinasour; Bahbah; mware

Snowflake ping!


58 posted on 11/14/2006 9:24:00 PM PST by nutmeg (In 2008 we will crush the Democrats like the cockroaches they are! -- Mark Levin 11-8-06)
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To: taxed2death

ROFLLL!!!!

I LOVE Tony, but gosh that is a great point!

If you are going to go as far as to pull out the Consitution as a prop, to make a "sarcastic" point to an obnoxious reporter... you better be prepared to have that same "sarcasm" thrown back at ya....

In fact- I bet if Tony reads your post - he laughs as well..


59 posted on 11/14/2006 9:33:57 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Dems win....Republicans blame conservatives? That will help..Keep attacking your base...BRILLIANT!)
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To: Darkwolf377
At that point, Snow pulled out a document, but reporters initially didn't know what it was.

Kinda like pulling out a crucifix on a vampire, I suspect.

60 posted on 11/15/2006 5:10:26 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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