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CHURCH OF ENGLAND FORGETS TO LOVE THEIR NEIGHBOR, JUST KILL THEM IF THEY ARE A BURDEN

BUDAPEST, HUNGARY- Biblical Family Advocates is condemning the declaration that children born with severe disabilities should be left to die. “This indeed should send chills down the spines of all disabled people, as well as those compassionate care givers who truly want to extend loving medical care to those in need, especially when these little one’s have just entered our world.” So says Phil Magnan, director for Biblical Family Advocates, a Christian pro family organization.

The statements by Tom Butler, Bishop of Southwark are sure to cause outrage among the faithful in the Church of England as well. Bishop Butler is the vice chair of the Church of England's Mission and Public Affairs Council. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=416003&in_page_id=1770

The faithful will have to consider whether it is more prudent to pay attention to one of their Bishops or to consider the compassionate and self sacrificing vision of the Holy Scriptures.

Magnan went on to say,“So if we are to believe that it is compassionate to kill or allow to die those in need, can we throw out Jesus’ admonition about the Good Samaritan? It is stunning to me that the Church of England is losing its sense of right and wrong, based on economics. Using that reasoning, we could take the lives of all kinds of people we do not wish to financially burden ourselves with, like the mentally disabled, the homeless and those in coma’s. But why stop there? Will this end up being a slippery slope to justify the killing of the elderly or the infirmed? This is madness.”

Magnan continued, “How many stories do we have to hear about how disabled people have overcome incredible odds when the doctors themselves had lost hope? This policy is a commentary on how our society views those with disabilities and our sense of compassion. When the bottom line determines who lives or dies, society had better reconsider its priorities in health care. Once a child is killed for these reasons, we have opened a huge door for others to be at risk. Is it not better to err on the side of life rather than death, as we can do better than killing those in need.”

Debate and commentary are sure to be made regarding these extremely troubling statements by the Church of England. It is the hope of Biblical Family Advocates that the policy set forth by Bishop Butler will be challenged in the light of compassion and the Holy Scriptures that are meant to promote a more just and caring society for those who desperately need our help.

1 posted on 11/14/2006 4:13:12 AM PST by Phil Magnan
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To: Phil Magnan; zot; Interesting Times

Another after death victory for Adolph Hitler. One of his programs being adopted by the descendants of those who were appalled by him and his ideas and fought him because of it.


2 posted on 11/14/2006 4:17:11 AM PST by GreyFriar ( (3rd Armored Division - Spearhead))
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To: sionnsar

Ping.


3 posted on 11/14/2006 4:17:49 AM PST by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: Phil Magnan

Another inflammatory headline--I don't know who is writing these.

I think that even many pro-life readers do not consider the "withholding or withdrawal" of treatment the act of "killing". This is NOT euthanasia, as I read it.

The only thing that the Episcopal church (whose policies I disagree with most of the time) is saying is that there are situations where artificial preservation of life is inappropriate. It's no different than a DNR order on grandma.


5 posted on 11/14/2006 4:24:52 AM PST by jaybee
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To: Phil Magnan

I'll reserve comment on this until Helen Keller and/or Fanny Crosby weighs in...


7 posted on 11/14/2006 4:32:09 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Phil Magnan
The pagans took over the Church Of England. Its now CINO = Christian In Name Only.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

8 posted on 11/14/2006 4:35:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Phil Magnan
Jesus said ".. the gates of hell will not prevail against it (His Church)".

So, if the gates of hell are seen to be prevailing against it, we can conclude that it is not the Church.

Q.E.D.
well maybe not but it's something to be on the watch for.


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10 posted on 11/14/2006 4:45:12 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: Phil Magnan

As a logical extension of this reasoning, Rush and MJ Fox should be scheduled for execution. Their "disabilities" certainly cannot be tolerated.


12 posted on 11/14/2006 5:03:13 AM PST by MrTed
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To: Phil Magnan

The Church of England long ago decided that Christianity would be much easier if God were removed from it.

The C of E is like a swimming team that's terrified of the water.


15 posted on 11/14/2006 5:22:24 AM PST by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: Phil Magnan

Its sad. My father (along with most of the congregation) completely abandoned the Episcopal Church (the Church of England here in the US) and changed to an African Anglican Church - the Africans (esp. Ugandans) are better practitioners of Christianity than the Authorities of the Church of England.


16 posted on 11/14/2006 5:25:10 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: Phil Magnan

My mother had five children, and we were all born premature. I was born two months premature and weighed 3 lbs. My brother was a few weeks premature and weighed 2 lbs. 11 oz. I was born in 1970. He was born in 1960.

I was VERY ill and my prognosis was not very good. My lungs had not completed being formed. I needed life-sustaining oxygen for weeks. Both the pediatrician and the lung specialist gave up on me many times over. Luckily there was always, "ONE MORE CHANCE". I spent many, many weeks in an incubator.

All of us left the hospital when we weighed five pounds. We were ALL given a chance to grow and mature in the hospital.

There was NO long-term prognosis for my brother, because he was born with only one kidney and it was malformed. The plastic surgeons repaired it so that his kidney could drain properly. He is now 45, and his life is a miracle.

Under these standards advocating infanticide, none of us would be here.

I argue these very life-saving measures force the medical community to give it their all, and continuously come up with new techniques that help man-kind, NOT just the smallest among us. These types of research and practical hands-on attempts are invaluable. Everyone, no matter how small, deserves a chance.


20 posted on 11/14/2006 5:38:12 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Phil Magnan
"Suffer little children to come unto me."

The Churchj of England is in some serious trouble.

Cotton Mather, please pick up the white courtesy phone!

21 posted on 11/14/2006 5:38:34 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Phil Magnan

This is what we have to look forward to if the dems get national health care.


22 posted on 11/14/2006 5:40:12 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Phil Magnan
Christians have long argued that life should preserved at all costs

This is a slight gloss. Life need not be preserved if it would take extraordinary means to preserve it - e.g we do not require that every very old person or traumatised accident victim has to be kept alive indefinitely by machine.

However - simple feeding and primary care is not extraordinary means. Moreover - extraordinary or heroic means ARE sensible options for babies, who have extraordinary recuperative and regenerative abilities.

24 posted on 11/14/2006 5:51:00 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Phil Magnan

So, uhh, who gets to play God and decide which ones are 'good' enough to be allowed to live?

I watched a show last night about a little girl who they thought wouldn't make it two days because of the circumfrence (sp) of her head and how tiny she was. Turns out she was a primordial dwarf and was SUPPOSED to be that way. She is three and fine and keeping on growing and loving her family. If they had just 'let her die' it would have been the death of absolute doll baby.


26 posted on 11/14/2006 6:05:01 AM PST by Southerngl
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To: Phil Magnan
IMO, this is a result of nationalized health care -- these children are expensive to keep alive.

Carolyn

29 posted on 11/14/2006 6:44:20 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Phil Magnan
The Anglican/Episcopalian/Church of England has been heretical for a long time so this is no suprise.

My tag line explains it all

30 posted on 11/14/2006 6:45:26 AM PST by Tolkien ("It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong." ---Voltaire)
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To: Phil Magnan

‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

I knew they'd redacted all the sexual morality from their Bibles, I guess this was just a matter of time. When does the CoE begin their campaign against the "useless eaters?"


34 posted on 11/14/2006 8:25:13 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Phil Magnan

and if they fail to abort inuterine or after birth they can also kill their children like Diaz and Yates get an instanity defense get two years cured and set free... There is something insanely wrong with this world. The begining of the end I believe.


35 posted on 11/14/2006 8:28:39 AM PST by tomnbeverly (Ted Kennedy used the KGB to undermine Reagan. Who used Al-Qaeda to undermine Bush?)
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40 posted on 11/14/2006 4:08:24 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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