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The Truth about Viet Nam Vets (oldie, but bears repeating)
D Magazine/POW Network ^ | June 1998 | B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley

Posted on 11/13/2006 11:08:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The morning of Friday, April 18, 1997, Daniel Wells of McKinney took the stand in his own defense. Charged with aggravated sexual assault for fondling his girlfriend's 8-year-old daughter, Wells explained it was all a misunderstanding. Wells was a decorated Vietnam war hero, with two Purple Hearts and two Bronze Medals for valor. On cross-examination, testimony revealed that even the mother initially hadn't believed the little girl. It was the war hero's word against the child's. In desperation the prosecutor's office tracked down B.G. Burkett, a silver-haired Dallas financial adviser who has obtained a national reputation as a military researcher and historian of the Vietnam War. Within an hour, Burkett had obtained Wells' military record. That afternoon, Burkett drove to McKinney, was sworn in as an expert witness, and testified that Daniel Wells was a fake. He had a mediocre military career as a Navy cargo handler; he had never served in combat, nor had he ever received any valorous decorations. Wells' story fell apart. He was sentenced to 20 years. Like the nationally infamous Larry Lawrence, the big Democratic donor who invented a story of heroic action in the merchant marine and was briefly interred in Arlington National Cemetery, Daniel Wells had concocted his Vietnam war stories from true-life accounts in books and magazine articles. Wells' lies were no surprise to B.G. Burkett. Whenever a media story portrays a troubled Vietnam vet who relies on the war to explain or excuse himself, Burkett investigates. In most cases, the purported vet is an exaggerator or an outright fake.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: draft; draftdodgers; johnkerry; military; phonies; pxcowboys; sbvft; searedinmymemory; swiftboatvets; veterans; vietnam; ythelongfacejohn
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Although I served later, I cringe when Vietnam Veterans are besmirched by the press, politicians and others. This article dispels many myths that exist about those who served their country in Southeast Asia. Hope it opens some eyes...
1 posted on 11/13/2006 11:08:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this Burkett the same dude who gave dan rather the phony story about President Bush?


2 posted on 11/13/2006 11:15:16 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I had a guy do some painting for me a few years ago and his story was...he stepped on a type of land mine that goes off when you lift your foot. He said he stood there while they got a Jeep and tied a shock cord around him and to the Jeep then snatched him off the mine with only minor injury. Would this have been possible? I always thought he was a fake vet...
3 posted on 11/13/2006 11:20:22 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: ozzymandus
That was my thought...Bill Burkett wasn't it?
4 posted on 11/13/2006 11:21:57 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: ozzymandus

I don't think they are the same person at all, but I will double-check...


5 posted on 11/13/2006 11:22:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It's not the same guy. I am set to marry a real Vietnam vet in April. He never tells me much, which means he really was there. Just like my uncles in Korea and WWII. If they tell you about it in any detail, they were not really there.


6 posted on 11/13/2006 11:24:53 PM PST by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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To: ozzymandus

NOT AT ALL THE SAME GUY! See this article in NewsMax:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/4/234750.shtml


7 posted on 11/13/2006 11:27:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good! I hate phony vets with a passion. I have heard so many obviously made-up "war stories" from so many drunken loudmouths I just have to get up and walk out of the room when these liars start their bullshit. I can't believe how many losers claim to have been Navy SEALS.

I was just worried this might be the same RAT nutjob that gave rather the counterfeit "documents". As I recall, 60 Minutes tried to interview that guy, but he had some sort of psychotic episode during the interview. Of course, that didn't stop CBS from running with the phony story.


8 posted on 11/13/2006 11:34:20 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: tubebender

I highly doubt that he was yanked away faster than 3000 foot per second, the speed of a shock wave and schrapnel from the explosion. If military type explosives were in the mine, it would have been around 5000 fps.

Cute idea and story but absolutely BS.


9 posted on 11/13/2006 11:37:33 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: defconw

That was my experience when I was talking to a Korean War veteran (he is a customer who regularly buys produce from me at my produce stand). He was talking to me how he was going to march in a parade for veterans and I asked him how it was over there in Korea during the war (I didn't know any better). He choked up and teared up(he was embarrassed)and told me he had to go. I'll never do that again.

My Dad told me that his brother had the job of stacking the dead bodies of soldiers during WWII. He wouldn't talk about anything either.


10 posted on 11/13/2006 11:40:58 PM PST by Vinny (You can't compromise with evil.)
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To: ozzymandus

No, different person. This one is the author of the book Stolen Valor, an excellent read.

Rathers Burkett was a Bill Burkett, soured former Commander in the Guard.

B.G. Burkett actually served in Viet Nam as a junior officer.


11 posted on 11/13/2006 11:43:13 PM PST by DakotaRed (Kerry Should Resign!)
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To: Vinny
My man will tell me when he was there and things like jumping out of a helicopter and being dirty and thats about it. I get very mundane details. He, I don't think wants to remember the bad stuff. He earned a Combat Infantry Badge and that and the 8 years in the Colorado Guard are all he says about it. He was Air Cav. A Sergent and that's the extent of it. He gets real quiet if I push for more information.
12 posted on 11/13/2006 11:52:04 PM PST by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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To: Vinny
I knew a guy that was an instructor at the local university who was Nam vet. In one conversation we had, I asked him want he did in The Nam. His reply was, "Graves registration." I didn't say a word more.
13 posted on 11/13/2006 11:57:44 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
B.G. "Jug" Burkett is the co-author of "Stolen Valor--How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and History." This thoroughly researched book exposes all the negative myths perpetuated by Hollywood and the news media about the Vietnam Veteran. It exposes phony heroes in high and low places. It investigates the forces that shaped the publics perception of Vietnam Veterans as alcoholic, dope-addled, dysfunctional losers. But provides solid statistics proving that most of us are well adjusted and productive citizens. He demolishes myths about African-Americans serving in disproportionate numbers (the percentage that served matched their percentage of the US population) and he demolishes the myth that Vietnam servicemen and women did not serve with the same honor and distinction as their parents and grandparents. Statistically, Vietnam era personnel committed far fewer offenses, deserted and surrendered less than US personnel in previous wars. It's a great book and Burkett is a great American.
14 posted on 11/14/2006 12:00:51 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: defconw

"He gets real quiet if I push for more information."

That I guess is what happens to people who have seen combat, it's not something you talk about, brag about, or discuss.


15 posted on 11/14/2006 12:05:40 AM PST by Vinny (You can't compromise with evil.)
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To: oyez

Good for you. My Dad warned me not to bring up what his brother did in WWII. I didn't.


16 posted on 11/14/2006 12:07:30 AM PST by Vinny (You can't compromise with evil.)
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Well I guess most especially with a woman you love. He wants to spare me the gory details. He's my hero anyway. He went, that's what counts.


17 posted on 11/14/2006 12:16:50 AM PST by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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To: defconw

Amen. ;)


18 posted on 11/14/2006 12:19:36 AM PST by Vinny (You can't compromise with evil.)
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If they tell you about it in any detail, they were not really there.

You can make a blanket statement like that but it would be wrong. I served two tours in Vietnam as an Army helicopter pilot and I'll tell you anything I know and can remember. Granted, I've surely suppressed many details about some of the more thrilling moments, but it was such a big part of my life that I don't want to 'not talk about it'.

Please don't take this in a personal way but your fiance may just not want to talk to you about it. He may talk to other Vietnam Vets.

May you and your guy have an eternity together.

19 posted on 11/14/2006 12:23:07 AM PST by leadpenny
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Thanks, that is my point. What he talks about with his buddies is a lot different then bragging about heroics, right?

He doesn't want me to know. He protects me from the horrors and inadvertently the thrills, if you will.

My uncle, was regular Army did three tours. Those who have done it, have no need to brag. I am aware that about three times as many guys that served, claimed to have served. Prove it or shut up is my point to them.

20 posted on 11/14/2006 12:32:18 AM PST by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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