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Those fighting Sioux nickname lose sight of most Indian views
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | November 12, 2006 | Katherine Kersten

Posted on 11/13/2006 2:26:23 PM PST by rhema

Imagine being a fan of a football team known as the Flickertails -- named for a small, wide-eyed ground squirrel. That's what the University of North Dakota sports teams were called back in the 1920s. "It must have been hard to rally people around the Flickertails," says Peter Johnson, UND's associate director of university relations. UND's archrival was the North Dakota State University Bison. A bison, of course, is a hulking creature that can squash a ground squirrel in one step. In 1930, UND adopted a more formidable name -- the Sioux -- and its teams later became the Fighting Sioux. In 1968, says Johnson, the Grand Forks Herald reported that a delegation from the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation traveled to UND to "adopt" its president into the tribe and to give UND the right to use the name for its athletic teams.

In 2005, however, the NCAA banned schools from using nicknames and images it deems "hostile and abusive" in postseason play. UND was on the list. Last week, the school sought a temporary injunction, which was granted Saturday night, ahead of the upcoming Division II football playoffs. Without it, the UND team wouldn't be able to host playoff games or use the nickname or logo on uniforms or in associated athletic program activities.

Never mind that a well-known Indian artist designed the UND logo of a proud Sioux warrior. Never mind that this image resembles the stately Indian on U.S. "buffalo" nickels, and on North Dakota's highway patrol cars and highway signs. Never mind that sports teams choose names that symbolize what they honor -- courage on the battlefield -- not what they mock or despise. The forces of political correctness have embraced this latest victim-creating issue and won't let it go.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Minnesota; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: fightingsioux; ncaa; und
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UND gets reprieve on Sioux name

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NCAA won't appeal ruling in UND nickname case

1 posted on 11/13/2006 2:26:27 PM PST by rhema
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To: rhema

The Dickenson, ND high school team name is the Midgets (at least, it used to be).


2 posted on 11/13/2006 2:29:43 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (For what cause would a liberal go to war? ...besides revolutions...)
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To: rhema

An the NCAA does not appear to care that a chief of the Sioux nation was on hand and endorsed the use of the nickname when it was chosen.


3 posted on 11/13/2006 2:32:15 PM PST by georgiarat
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To: rhema
"It must have been hard to rally people around the Flickertails,"

I don't know about that.

Fans don't seem to have a hard time rallying around the Badgers or the Tarheels, or any number of other goofy names.

Heck, the University of Texas named itself after an animal that we eat!

4 posted on 11/13/2006 2:33:37 PM PST by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: rhema
Never mind

That's what the PC police have been saying all along. Never mind the facts. Facts be damned. Sure, those facts are true, but they really don't matter. The morally-superior, deep-thinking PC police know what's best for everyone.

Those who disagree with the PC police are just a bunch of imbeciles missing the big picture.

5 posted on 11/13/2006 2:34:15 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: highball
"Buckeyes" is rather funny, too (just a fancy acorn, right?).

And what the heck is a "Hawkeye" anyway?

6 posted on 11/13/2006 2:36:28 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: rhema
When will the NCAA "realize" that the Dakota part of North Dakota refers to Indians and will thus have to be eliminated in order to respect the Indians?

We can never truly respect the Indians until we have eliminated any reference to or memory of them. < /sarcasm which goes to 11>

7 posted on 11/13/2006 2:36:34 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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To: georgiarat

To these people if only one person complains they feel they have a duty to force ND to stop using the name.

They're still trying to create a world where nobody who leaves their home gets offended.


8 posted on 11/13/2006 2:36:37 PM PST by CaliPhant
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To: highball
Fans don't seem to have a hard time rallying around the Badgers or the Tarheels

What's goofy about the Badgers? The Buckeye - that's one I don't get!


9 posted on 11/13/2006 2:38:32 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: newgeezer

A hawkeye is someone/something which can see like a hawk. Very good eyesight. That's my guess.


10 posted on 11/13/2006 2:40:22 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

I just checked...it still is! I wonder what the story is behind the name.


11 posted on 11/13/2006 2:40:32 PM PST by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: July 4th; highball
Pound-for-pound, the North American badger will stack up against most critters for orneriness.


12 posted on 11/13/2006 2:49:13 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (For what cause would a liberal go to war? ...besides revolutions...)
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To: rhema

A couple of my favorites are the "Screaming Squid" and the "Dirtbags."


13 posted on 11/13/2006 2:49:30 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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To: rhema

And the silence regarding the anti-Hellenism of USC and Michigan State is deafening.


14 posted on 11/13/2006 2:49:59 PM PST by AmishDude (Libertarians didn't lose it for us. They're losers who work against what they claim to want.)
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To: Doomonyou

I'm sure the NCAA approves of the Franklin and Marshall Diplomats.


15 posted on 11/13/2006 2:51:21 PM PST by AmishDude (Libertarians didn't lose it for us. They're losers who work against what they claim to want.)
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To: highball

The "Tarheels" is nick name that goes back to the Civil War when a group of NC Confederate soldiers held their position so tenaciously that one observer commented that they were solidly emplaced that they had “tar on their heels” and couldn’t move.

Far from a goofy nickname it is a name won in honor on the battlefield.

The same is true of the Tennessee Volunteers although the origin of that nick name is even older---going all the way back to the Creek Indian War and Andrew Jackson.

You might want to do a little research before you call a nick name “goofy.”


16 posted on 11/13/2006 2:58:17 PM PST by Lucky Dog
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To: skr
I wonder what the story is behind the name.

I've often wondered also. BTW, I misspelled Dickinson.

Lando

17 posted on 11/13/2006 3:02:31 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (For what cause would a liberal go to war? ...besides revolutions...)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Great pic! When I was in school at Wisconsin, a group of students had looked at getting a real live badger for the football sidelines. (Along the lines of the Georgia Bulldog, etc.) But apparently, after talking to a number of animal experts, they discovered that the badger does not take well to human handling...


18 posted on 11/13/2006 3:02:35 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: AmishDude
How about these guys?


19 posted on 11/13/2006 3:03:43 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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To: July 4th
they discovered that the badger does not take well to human handling...

More like humans do not take well to Badger thrashings!

20 posted on 11/13/2006 3:05:10 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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