Posted on 11/13/2006 1:51:43 PM PST by bigdcaldavis
Anyone can tell you an interesting story, but when it comes to Microsoft and Novells recent deal Linux enthusiasts around the world have more than a couple up their sleeves.
Microsoft has a long history at killing competition. They started with Novells Server market, they tried to do with Java, and today they are trying to do it against the Anti-Virus vendors. They succeeded against Netscape, gained significant grounds against Sonys Playstation, and killed a thousand other products that I cant name because I forgot about them after Microsoft obliterated them out of the market. If any of you are XBox lovers, I dont have to tell you that in the war over consoles Microsoft has been losing money on every XBox it sells. Zune (the competition to iPod) is said to have a similar strategy. In short Microsoft has a huge bank balance and can pump in a lot of money until the competition goes bankrupt.
As a result of this announcement its not a surprise that the Linux world is almost up in arms against Novell for giving in for a few pieces of silver. I on the other hand have a different prespective on it.
* Microsoft isnt interested in suing anyone (anytime soon atleast) because of its Vista launch schedule and the tricky negotiations going on in Europe * SCO has already tried the same FUD which Microsoft is accused of trying. In fact if you remember Microsoft had licensed SCO unix in a similar deal which was indirectly used to fund SCOs battle against IBM/Linux * Most of the other visible products Microsoft has went after till now have been markets where Microsoft didnt really have a foothold. Linux is one of the very few unique products which started up as a competitor to Microsoft has has gradually increased in popularity over the years. [Firefox/Mozilla is the other one which I admire] * The other interesting point to note is that unlike most other commercial vendors who got nailed by Microsofts pump and dump strategy, Linux is not a commercial entity which can go bankrupt. They can kill Novell, but it will be very hard for them to kill the whole linux movement.
My personal analysis is that Microsoft is afraid.
* Its so afraid of loosing this battle that in its moment of desperation its ready to do anything short of launching a Microsoft branded Linux distribution. * The Financial deal Microsoft and Novell signed has a few hints of where this might be heading. * To begin with its clear both of them want to integrate each others OS using each others technology to provide a better virtualization experience. * Its also clear that though Novell might use significant portions of proprietary Microsoft technology (for example for authentication, authorization and accounting) Microsoft will mostly be using GNU code to which Novell doesnt have any rights anyway. * So why is Microsoft paying Novell ? * And whats the deal with 240 million dollars for linux license subscription cost ? What is it going to do with that many copies of linux distribution ? * Oh wait, they could embed it into your Microsoft operating system ? Have you ever thought which distribution of Linux you would use if your Microsoft OS copy you already have, has a Linux distribution pre-bundled with it? * Novell also mentions that it will pay Microsoft a minimum amount of licensing fees, which can increase depending on its own sales. So may be it will sell Windows as well who knows. But it will sell something with at least some part of Microsoft code in it. * Finally based on my personal opinion (with no understanding of financial details) it almost looks like Microsoft has kind of bought a share of Novells company and wants a piece of the action every year. * May be Microsoft is going to announce something even much more significant which will dramatically increase Novells sales. May be Novell is an investment after all not just a pump-and-dump target.
My thought process finally took me to the one place I didnt want to go Its the thought that Microsoft will soon bundle Suse linux with one of its own products.
Coming back to the discussion on whether we should abandon Suse or not, I personally think it doesnt matter as long as Microsoft is not trying to kill it. Stop acting like a 5 year old kid who doesnt like the big guys. If anything, you should be excited about more commercial support behind your favourite OS. And if they really do bundle Suse with every Desktop/Server OS thats exactly what I wanted when I joined the revolution. Linux on every desktop
I have said this before, and Ill continue to say it that Im not opposed to Microsoft Linux as long as others can innovate and keep Microsoft on its toes.
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you have mail...
But it has. That's why Linux usage is growing, not declining. There are many other alternative OSes, but few of them achieve any real following. Linux has, and it continues to grow.
And you don't pay for Apple's OS when you buy a Mac? Why should Windows be free?
Software was one of the major factors in buying the Dell. I already have MS Office and a few other Windows software packages that I would have had to repurchase by going with the Mac.
Yes you do. However, you can also buy OS X Server separate, and the unlimited client license version costs $999. Non-OEM Windows 2003 Server can run from about $850 (Standard version, 5 clients) to about $2,400 (Enterprise edition, 25 CAL). Yes, Microsoft sells low-end versions of 2003 Server for less, and so does Apple -- $500 for 10 CAL OS X (but otherwise not restricted).
I already have MS Office and a few other Windows software packages that I would have had to repurchase by going with the Mac.
Investment in current software is always a good reason to stick with your current OS, but that doesn't say anything about the value of a Mac, just migration.
I agree with you. I love my Mac, but have to give MS credit for what they have accomplished. The Clinton Admin. tried to destroy them and they could've told everyone to buzz off.
LOL
Actually, the suit wasn't successful, and ended up with Linspire getting a large sum of cash from MS...
"As early as 2002, a court rejected Microsoft's claims, stating that Microsoft had used the term "windows" to describe graphical user interfaces before the product, Windows, was ever released, and that the windowing technique had already been implemented by Xerox and Apple many years before[1]. Microsoft kept seeking retrial, but in February 2004, a judge rejected two of Microsoft's central claims[2]. The judge denied Microsoft's request for a preliminary injunction and raised "serious questions" about Microsoft's trademark. Microsoft feared that a court may find the "Windows" a generic and result in the loss of its status as a trademark. In July 2004, Microsoft offered to settle with Lindows.[3] As part of this licensing settlement, Microsoft paid an estimated $24 million cash (for a case that Microsoft itself brought), and Lindows transferred the Lindows trademark to Microsoft and changed their name to Linspire."
What better way to hide a large infusion of cash into a company than to make it look like a settlement? ;)
Some of these kids were in diapers back then apparently.
Especially in all the bad places.
I see we've found the limit of your intelligence. Boldly Going Nowhere indeed.
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LMFAO...
whatever, iggle. half of those posts weren't mine...
FD--here's another classic for ya:
Here, he cannot even keep track of who's saying what...
haha! You got the wrong guy, moron!
What a meltdown!
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