[HelloooClareece]

Fascinating.

[blam]

GGG Ping.

[aruanan]

And God's not going to use celestial mechanics to get his point across as needed? Ha ha. After all, look what he did to Sennacharib.

BTW I just picked up a new paperback edition of that book about comets by Baille (sp?).

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam. We've seen this one before, maybe it's an FR topic; also, I think there was a topic or just an article about a study which claimed this wasn't an impact crater. :')

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[SunkenCiv]

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39b91ca42b27.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/714636/posts?page=52#52

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/931431/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1332192/posts?page=20#20

some duplicates:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/714636/posts?page=49#49

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/756422/posts?page=34#34

[SunkenCiv]

just in case...

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[DannyTN]

Cool.

Of course, scientists always look for the natural explanation and God is on record for using nature at times. Meteors are natural but you really have to wonder about meteors that explode with the inscription "Conquer by this".

[AmishDude]

Should we all pray towards it and go there, with a few of us dying in the stampede every year?

[SunkenCiv]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirente_crater

http://www.ees.lanl.gov/news/archive_apr_june_2006.shtml

http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/37224

[SunkenCiv]

Crater, now the Rose Hill Amphitheater, Henderson TX:

http://www.cratercraze.com/

[ModelBreaker]

"...about noon, when the day was already beginning to decline, he saw with his own eyes the trophy of a cross of light in the heavens, above the Sun, and bearing the inscription 'conquer by this'.

Meteors frequently bear inscriptions.

[AdmSmith]

At the Battle of Milvian Bridge October 28, 312, Constantine was successful mainly due to his superior military skills and the incompetence of the engineers used by Maxentius for construction of the temporary wooden bridge.

Constantine did not establish Christianity, although the Edict of Milan gave religious freedom. The god Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun, featured prominently on Constantinian coins and monuments in the years before and after the battle indicating that he kept several beliefs as a hedging strategy.

Constantine was responsible for switching the day of rest from Saturday (Sabbath) to Sunday, the first day of the week in the Jewish Calendar, as well as the day of the Resurrection, and the day which the Roman state had dedicated to Sol Invictus (hence Sun-day), the main rival religion to Christianity at the time, and of which Constantine was chief priest (pontifex maximus) until his death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_I_and_Christianity

Many still erroneously believe today that the Edict established Christianity as the sole faith of Rome, a change which didn't take place until the early 390s, under Theodosius I.

[Al Simmons]

It didn't 'save it', just helped it to get the upper hand much sooner than it otherwise would have. With the decay and collapse of the Roman Empire, a religion that preached a close-knit society where believers helped each other and showed each other mercy would have - by default if nothing else - carried the day anyhow.

The 'mushroom cloud' following the meteorite's fiery impact might well have looked like a cross as it rose up - Roman crucifixion crosses didn't always have the spoke rising up the middle, and often were "T" shaped.

[jim35]

Interesting article. Let's not forget though, that God is nature, and his miracles thus cannot be "supernatural," by the very definition. It's not so hard to believe that God would use a meteor or two, to send His sign, and it's really cool how he got the meteor to spell out "conquer by this."

[Drammach]

This was a time when Christianity was struggling. Support from the most powerful man in the empire allowed the emerging religious movement to flourish.

I would argue that Christianity, in it's many forms extent at that time was not necessarily struggling, although historically, they did suffer from some persecution..

What "the most powerful man in the empire" did, was demand that Christian beliefs be consolidated into a religious institution acceptable to the emperor as a state religion..
He provided the early church with political power..

I would further argue that his imprimatur did not "save" Christianity, it may have destroyed it..
Christian beliefs were varied at that time, and many different sects and beliefs existed..
What we ended up with would probably not be recognized as Christianity by the believers of the time, and would likely be considered blasphemy by many..
Today's christianity is the result of a religious committee of "standards and practices"....

[BenLurkin]

I don't see teh connection.

[Dustbunny]

It certainly does look like a Meteor impact and apparently did happen many centuries ago. As for the rest of the 'theory', simply amazing what they can deduce from such skimpy evidence.

[mrsmith]

I wonder: What did the other guys think of this meteor and impact?

To Constantitine it was a blessing, to Maxentius it was what?

[SuziQ]

God works in mysterious ways, as they say.

[VOA]

The event was shown as an impact on "The Battle For Rome" (I think that
was the title) that played last night on Discovery Channel.
The narrator admitted there is uncertainty as to exactly what was witnessed.

The show was a pretty decent historical reenactment, but the fellow
looked like a blood relative to Monty Python's Eric Idle.