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"A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER" (Not the Tom Clancy novel)
Free Republic ^ | 11/12/2006 | gonzo

Posted on 11/12/2006 7:35:46 PM PST by gonzo

The following are copys of e-mails that I've sent to my employees up North (I live in Florida now), and Jim Robinson...

"Re: What's goin' on...

To Jim Robinson | 10/19/2006 4:43:47 AM EDT sent

Howdy Jim. Barry/gonzo here. What follows is an e-mail that I sent to my troops up North at my Company in South Bend, Indiana. They're a bunch of rabid VRWC buffs, and they wanted my take on world events, after I had warned them to 'keep their powder dry'.

A few days later, I sent this to Jim:

BTW, Jim, those TU-142's are actually TU-95's, an upgraded version of the 142. A little stronger, but still a 'Bear'. My bad. I flagged you on a thread about them.

............Barry/gonzo I didn't want to post it as a thread on FR because, well, I think I'm close to being right, and 'loose lips and all...'."
Here goes, with some other observations afterwards:

To my employees and JimRob:
Baryshery@aol.com wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1719198/posts

This link is part of a good look at the Enemies of the USA. There are active links on the thread that are also excellent, especially # 20.
READ THIS BEFORE YOU CLICK THE LINK, PLEASE:

I don't often write messages like this - in fact, not for 28 years as I remember, so here goes:

North Korea claims to have recently tested a nuclear bomb. This is highly unlikely, given all the intel that has been obtained, but they did explode something, on the order of about 800,000 pounds of TNT (tri-nitro-toluene), which is possible. Whether or not the little maniac running that Country has or can make a working A-Bomb in the future is irrelevant. North Korea is now under a virtual blockade of any shipments of any nuclear materials out of Korea, courtesy of the UN (the UN is a joke, but the votes are in, and Korean goods can and will be siezed on the high seas as necessary).
What is important is that they have already shipped a number of their possibly operational Big-Dong missles to Iran! Those missles in Iran can reach Israel, all of Europe, and much of Russia and Asia.

Now, I'm the only one here(at BAMAR) that can remember the Korean War as current events. China entered the Korean War on the side of the North (unofficially) when it appeared that the UN-Allied powers were about to defeat North Korea. China is now stuck with NK as their very-own bastard stepchild. I love the irony of it, because China doesn't want a nuke-enabled NK either, so they voted for blockade! So, for all intensive purposes, NK is no further problem.

Now, Iran: Iran is now making fissile material (stuff-that-goes-big-bang) for nuclear weapons, and will have enough material for their first A-Bomb before April, 2007, and possibly by December, 2006.
The guy in charge in Iran, who I call 'Amanutjob', is insane, and has often said, amongst other things, that he intends to destroy Israel, the United States, and anyone else that doesn't convert to Islam, and I believe he is sincere. He's crazy, but he's not kidding!
He also welcomes Armageddon, even and especially a nuclear one, and I believe him!
I think that he must be stopped, and that he will be stopped!

I hoped that our President Bush would be strong enough to give the order to destroy Irans' nuclear capability with conventional arms (and we have them in quantity), even if the USA had to go it alone. Logistically, Israel doesn't have the means, and is too far away to do it without using nukes, so it's up to the USA.
Middle-last week it was reported that Russia was activating quite a number of their old TU-142 Bear intercontinental bombers. These are relics of the Cold War, and wouldn't stand a chance going up against any defenses of the US, Britain, or even France (if France didn't surrender first). They can, however, carry and drop a huge bomb load over distance, and they were reliable. Therefore, I think Russia's in the coming fight on the side of 'the Good Guys'.

So, I said all that, to say this:
I think that sometime after the elections on November 7, (vote, dammit!) and before April, 2007, Irans' nuclear capabilities are going to be seriously attrited (we're gonna bomb the very-living-shit outa their facilities) using conventional weapons. We're also going to secure Irans' Southern oil facilities to protect them (Google - Maps of Iran), and also protect the Straits of Hormuz (see Maps...) by invading Iran from Iraq. (Gee, who would have thought that we'd already be in Iraq?)
When this starts (shit-hitting-the-fan), every so-called Mosque in the USA and in other Countries becomes a potential den of murderous zealots. Christians and Jews don't store weapons and explosives in their Churches and Synagogues, but Moslems do it all the time!!

It may be prudent to take steps to be able to protect ourselves before anything bad happens.
I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Neville Chamberlain (Google) was wrong, and about 90,000,000 souls subsequently perished.
I've read the Bible, both Testaments.
I've read the Koran (Quran), and it sucks!
Islam is not a religion - it is a cult of death.
I'm reading up on The Crusades now.(I think we're in one again, and this time, it's for keeps!)

I'll be happy to answer any questions. This is the longest letter I've ever written, and I can't even type!

Stay well, y'all, and hope to see you soon......................Barry

PS: And I thought the only nutbars I'd have to think about were these wierd Scientologists around
here..............B
End of e-mail.

To JimRob:
Additional info (and I don't want to dig too deep):

The USAF is presently working out of an Air Base in far Eastern Russia (Base name unknown), WITH the Russians. There was a ground collision accident there with a plane subsequently burning up. A USAF Tanker (KC-135 or KC-10) was involved. The story made page 99, and then went down the memory hole. I think we're arming the Russians with Smart Bombs, and possibly helping with mid-air re-fueling.

My personal opinion is that a three-pronged attack plan is being hatched:

#1)-The USA and Great Britain (and others) are in Iraq, and will commence Air and Ground ops against Iran as noted above. There may well be an amphibious incursion in the East (Google Maps of Iran).All conventional weaponry.

#2)-Israel will move North into Lebanon and finish-off Hizbolla (it made NO sense for them to stop last time), and will probably continue into Syria. The USA and Brits will probably lend Air cover as needed. All conventional weaponry.

#3)-Russia will probably be tasked with bombing the North Korean nuclear-bomb facilities, and maybe not the nuclear power plants - anybodys guess, but L'il Kim gets dead.
The Russians may help in Iran in the second wave of bombings as necessary, because those TU-142's are just too damned noisy. All conventional weaponry.

#4)-China will cooperate with all sides, but will stay out of the fight. Instead, I think they'll provide safe air passage and any intel they can. Theirs has become a peculiar form of Communism, and is actually transitioning into the biggest Capitalist Country in the World. They're not going to attack their largest market - the USA - and so, will become our new best friend.

#5)-After the initial destruction is completed, we'll probably call a time-out on the field, and ask the muzzies if they want to quit their evil ways, or would they like us to get serious with Nuclear Weapons?

#6)-It depends on their answer to #5!

Jim, when 9/11 happened, I knew in my gut that the muzzies (wogs) were going to NEED an object lesson in order to change their minds, just as the Germans and Japanese needed Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki to change theirs.
It is no accident that the USA is presently in Iraq, effectively splitting Syria and Iran, and positioned to take and hold the important parts of Iran.
I think that we know where all the Iraqi WMD's are buried in Syria, and that they're Chem and Bio weapons, that we'll burn later.

In my conversations with my troops (employees) up North, I've just cautioned them to be prepared for the possibility of some internal civil unrest here in the USA, started by Islamaniacs that are already here, in their mosques. It'll take some time for local Police to regain control.

Well, that's it so far, Jim! After the elections and before April, 2007! As I pick up more data, I'll add to this.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; coldwar2; iran; putin; russia; sovietunion; usa
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To: Grampa Dave; BIGLOOK
Very interesting map indeed. Something I've tried to explain to the geographically (and strategically) challenged.

Pinging this to myself, Dave for when I get back.....day after tomorrow.
141 posted on 11/19/2006 3:17:47 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: M. Espinola; blam; Thunder90; ex-Texan; SkyPilot
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1741034/posts

Thanks, M. Espinola! there's a lot going on about Iran tonight.

Being computer-challenged, I've got to open another browser to post some new links! That's the only way I know how to do it. Back-in-a-bit...........FRegards

142 posted on 11/19/2006 7:32:58 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Grampa Dave; gonzo; Dave; stevie_d_64; ex-Texan; SkyPilot; Convert from ECUSA; MarMema; ...
That was the only map depicting more or less where our forces are located in terms of surrounding Iran.

One of the carrier groups is the USS Iwo Jima in the Persian Gulf at this time. (below)

Two U.S. Navy V-22 Osprey aircraft operate from the flight deck of the USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) during developmental testing on July 1st, 2004.

Other US Navy ships are the Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):

USS Boxer (LHD 4) - Persian Gulf
USS Dubuque (LPD 8) - Persian Gulf
USS Comstock (LSD 45) - Persian Gulf

Amphibious Warfare Ships:

USS Saipan (LHA 2) - Gulf of Oman

Other Carriers:

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - Arabian Sea

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower - CVW-7 Continues OEF Missions Over Afghanistan

(July 23rd, 2006) – The amphibious assault ship USS Boxer (LHD 4) shown off the coast of Southern California. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Noel Danseco


143 posted on 11/19/2006 11:14:35 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: gonzo

bump for later...


144 posted on 11/20/2006 9:53:58 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero » with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: M. Espinola

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1743203/posts

China getting ready for NK refugees?

...............FRegards


145 posted on 11/23/2006 7:26:25 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Grampa Dave; gonzo; Dave; stevie_d_64; ex-Texan; SkyPilot; Convert from ECUSA; MarMema; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1745593/posts?page=1

Russia has 62 operational TU-95 Bear Bombers.

Count the mosques in your neighbourhoods, then stay well armed and safe..................FRegards


146 posted on 11/29/2006 12:57:52 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: gonzo
Here is additional data:

Strategic forces

Type Name Launchers Year deployed Warheads x yield (kiloton) Total warheads
ICBMs          
SS-18SS-18 Satan 138 1979 10 x 550/750 (MIRV) 1,380
SS-19 Stiletto 134 1980 6 x 550/750 (MIRV) 804
SS-24 M1 Scalpel 36 1987 10 x 550 (MIRV) 360
SS-25 Sickle 342 1985 1 x 550 342
SS-27 n.a. 30 1997 1 x 550 30
Total   680     2,916
SLBMs          
SS-N-18 M1 Stingray 96 1978 3 x 200 (MIRV) 288
SS-N-20 Sturgeon 40 1983 10 x 100 (MIRV) 400
SS-N-23 Skiff 96 1986 4 x 100 (MIRV) 384
Total   232     1,072
Bomber/weapons          
Tu-95 MS6 Bear H6 34 1984 6 AS-15A ALCMs or bombs 204
Tu-95 MS6 Bear H6 34 1984 6 AS-15A ALCMs or bombs 204
Tu-160 Blackjack 15 1987 12 AS-15B ALCMs,AS-16 SRAMs, or bombs 180
Total   79     864
Grand total   991     4,850
ALCM--air-launched cruise missile; AS--air-to-surface missile; ICBM--intercontinental ballistic missile, range greater than 5,500 kilometers; MIRV--multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles; SLBM--submarine-launched ballistic missile; SRAM--short-range attack missile

July/August 2003 pp. 70-72 (vol. 59, no. 04) © 2003 Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

source

Russian milatary aircraft photos & info (in Danish):


147 posted on 11/29/2006 2:32:39 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

Good stuff!

What amazes me is that we are now getting down to lebels where the M.A.D. (Mutual Assured Destruction) understanding is almost nullified, and that a nuclear exchange could be survivable for certain aspects of each others communities...(i.e. bunkered down politicians, and other VIP's)

I believe the only reason is that we just don't have anything that's a pushbutton issue to conflict over these days...

The Russian "warm and fuzzies" they are having with Iran may change that when people start realizing the finality of that course...Right??? We know what thats all about...


148 posted on 11/29/2006 5:11:08 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: M. Espinola; stevie_d_64
Good catch, M. Espinola! Nearly identical, and confirms what I remember hearing and reading. Brit Hume mentioned it on FOX News one night, and it was a 'filler' in the St. Pete Times, but I couldn't find it later.

It's amazing that after the Soviets built so many jet and turbofan bombers, they've only got 15 Blackjacks left operational!

Stay well armed and safe. Something's coming soon..................FRegards

149 posted on 11/29/2006 4:07:27 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: stevie_d_64; gonzo
With the continuous daily revelations concerning the radiation assassination of Alexander Litvinenko, very possibly pointing directly to the front door step of KGB Putin should warn Americans and the West to wake up quickly and prepare for the unthinkable, since a cornered bear is as extremely dangerous as a preparing Red China.

Some interconnected additional data located is below:

Russian war preparations

  • Moscow has outfitted hundreds of fighter-bombers with additional fuel tanks and in-flight refueling capability, augmenting Russia's intercontinental strike capability. 

  • Russia has been constructing large numbers of military transport aircraft for foreign customers who do not exist.  

  • Russia has been building and accumulating dry docks even though, at the moment, no foreign customers for them exist.  

  • Russia has recently fielded a new battle tank; a new state-of-the-art fighter; super-quiet submarines which can engage sea, land and air targets simultaneously; a new attack helicopter and sniper rifle.  

  • Russia has developed a revolutionary new rifle-fired infantry weapon, the so-called vacuum grenade, which can give a single Russian soldier the firepower of a 155mm howitzer. Russia has begun joint production of this weapon with the Chinese.   

  • Russia now emphasizes the production of mobile ICBMs like the Topol-M, which are designed to evade satellite detection, permitting the Russians to cheat on arms control agreements.  

  • Russia continues to develop biological and chemical weapons, sometimes with the use of U.S. funds. According to recent defectors, Russia is now working on a super-plague weapon.  

  • Russian diplomacy is clearly attempting to build an anti-American alliance which includes countries like China, North Korea, Cuba, Iraq, Libya, South Africa, Syria, Venezuela, Vietnam, Iran and India.

  • Russian Spetsnaz commandos continue to train with suitcase nukes against U.S. targets. 

  • Russia is hoarding strategic metals which are vital for keeping up war production through the first months of a nuclear world war. 

  • Russia is importing more food than needed for domestic consumption. At the same time, Russia has constructed huge underground nuclear-proof food storage facilities. 

  • Russia has developed an impressive engineering rescue capability, organized into special military formations positioned outside large cities, for rescuing citizens trapped beneath rubble in the event of a nuclear attack.    

  • Recent Russian movies and pop songs depict Americans as stupid animals who deserve to die.  In keeping with this theme, NATO is depicted as an aggressive alliance, sometimes likened to Hitler's Third Reich.

  • Russia is building huge underground cities, like the one at Yamantau Mountain in the Urals.  These cities are built more than a thousand feet into the earth and are able to withstand direct nuclear attack.

  • Russia has been modernizing nuclear bunkers located beneath Moscow.

  • Russia has erected a system of national missile defense far beyond that allowed by the 1972 ABM Treaty.  Deploying approximately 10,000 dual-purpose mobile SAM/ABMs, Russia has used a loophole in the treaty to provide a powerful missile shield.  Using a common-sense approach to ABM defense, Russia's interceptor missiles employ special nuclear warheads that can destroy incoming warheads without having to score a direct head-on hit.   

  • Russia is also ahead of the United States in directed energy weapons that could be used to blind or destroy U.S. early warning satellites.  

  • Many of Russia's mafia organizations operate in collaboration with, or under the supervision of, military intelligence and the state security services. Organized crime is used to penetrate Western banks, technology companies, law enforcement and government. Routes used for smuggling drugs and other contraband are reserved in wartime for bringing biological, chemical and nuclear weapons into the U.S.

Chinese war preparations

  • Civil defense drills began in major Chinese cities around July 2000.

  • Chinese military commanders have been told that nuclear war with America could begin at any time.  

  • China has been developing and deploying new road-mobile long range missiles like the DF-31 and DF-41.

  • China is modernizing its navy, purchasing advanced Russian warships and missiles capable of sinking U.S. carriers.  

  • China has been rapidly building a large store of advanced nuclear warheads.  

  • China has positioned bases to block the main western entry point into the Pacific, and has acquired indirect control of the Panama Canal through front companies.  

  • China has formed military ties with Cuba and Venezuela.

  • China has also penetrated Sudan, and is spreading missile and nuclear technology to rogue states in Africa and the Middle East.

  • China has massed troops, aircraft, ships and missiles opposite Taiwan.  

  • China has engaged in war exercises during which U.S. forces in the Pacific were targeted by Chinese forces.  

 

Polonium found at the office of Putin opponent

150 posted on 11/29/2006 8:58:08 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: M. Espinola

Your post is very chilling, indeed. The US does NOT have any type of civil defense for it's people. NONE!!

However, the powerful in our nation do have underground cities to go to in the event of a nuclear attack. Even a nation like North Korea, I've heard could take out our grid systems by using a nuke blast at high altitudes.

I have to give it to the Russians for at least providing a civil defense system for their people. We will be like sitting ducks. ;( ;( The cold war was never over, imho. It just went underground and is not showing it's ugly face again.

Thanks for posting all the info, even though it's scary. The reference to the movies which showed Americans as deserving to die, was really reason to pause and wonder what the heck is going on. Its as tho there is a push for whole world to hate America and Israel. Strange times and getting stranger.


151 posted on 11/29/2006 10:36:20 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777
You are correct, civil defense against a nuclear attack is meaningless in America. We can't even handle coordinating hurricane related civil defense and our enemies know it.

Today this sign is only considered a 'Cold War' relic.

Putin Warns of Continued Arms Race

The Russian-U.S. arms race is not over, stated President Vladimir Putin, in his seventh state of the nation address.

Russia will soon commission two nuclear submarines with the first ICBMs developed since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Land-based strategic forces will soon get their first unit of mobile Topol-M missiles. Putin states that the new missiles and warheads will be able to change course during flight to evade U.S. defense systems (Wash Times 5/11/06).

Russian -Ministry of Extraordinary Situations

Civil Defense Supplies Found in Brooklyn Bridge

A stockpile of water drums, bandages, and crackers dating from 1957, found during a structural inspection of the Brooklyn Bridge, will probably be sent to a museum for “ephemera.” Officials commented on the 1950s description of the effects of nuclear weapons that were “almost pornographic in their lurid details.” Apparently, unlike with today's global warming scare, “there was a fascination with the apocalyptic.”

By the early 1970s, 230,000 buildings in metropolitan New York had been designated as fallout shelters. By 1979, the city was paying contractors $38 a ton to cart away supplies from the shelters (NY Times 3/26/06).

 

"Evidence that the Chinese are indeed preparing for war includes the continued construction of underground bunkers and shelters throughout the city of Beijing. At the same time, nothing is being done to prepare for the major earthquake expected soon; new high rises will topple at the slightest shock (correspondence from Eric Alley)."

CIVIL DEFENSE PERSPECTIVES

China activates bomb shelters - Intelligence sources suspect reopening to public is part of strategic deception (June 28th, 2005)

NATIONAL UNPREPAREDNESS MONTH

152 posted on 11/29/2006 11:41:19 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: M. Espinola; Pepper777
Wow! Your #s 150 and 152 sound like a great plot for a spy novel. Maybe Nyquist could write it? Maybe he already did.

Both Russia and China have one large customer in common - the USA, and they have both felt the bite of the same enemy as we have - Islam.

Also, I doubt either of them are particularly happy about sharing a border with a Nuclear-Tipped-Missle-Armed North Korea, since they both voted to blockade N Korea at the UN. China also cut-off oil to NK.

And this Polonium-210 business! What was Litvinenko doing with it, and how did he get it? It makes a lousy poison, and if someone wanted him dead, it would be a lot more efficient to just pop a cap in his ass.

Looks like it came from Russia, according to the radioactive planes in the British fleet, and I've no doubt that Litvinenko has some old connections there. I'd give Putin a pass on this one - who's he gonna get to carry it? It's REALLY radioactive!

Well, count your mosques, then stay well armed and safe...................FRegards

153 posted on 11/30/2006 2:09:34 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: M. Espinola; gonzo

Yer just full of all sorts of good news ain't ya...


154 posted on 11/30/2006 9:01:20 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: stevie_d_64
"...Yer just full of all sorts of good news ain't ya..."

Just tryin' ta keep the conversation lively...............FRegards

155 posted on 11/30/2006 11:19:45 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: gonzo

And when you do that, I end up buying a case of ammo everytime! hehehe

I'm sending you the bill! ;-)


156 posted on 11/30/2006 1:40:05 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: gonzo; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; judicial meanz; ...
'Bump' on gonzo's thread here. Lines up with conversations "off site" with other Middle East observers.








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157 posted on 11/30/2006 5:16:45 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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158 posted on 12/01/2006 12:40:26 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: gonzo

Interesting.


159 posted on 12/01/2006 12:53:09 AM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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