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New Evidence Found for Childhood Family Factors Influencing Sexual Orientation
NARTH ^ | October 27, 2006 | Linda Ames Nicolosi

Posted on 11/11/2006 1:44:40 PM PST by scripter

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bump to myself


81 posted on 11/13/2006 7:31:48 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Jeff Chandler; BubbaHeel
I don't know if I've ever met a black guy I didn't suspect was at least bi-sexual.
You're kidding, right?

Google for black and "down low". For example New York Times: Double Lives On The Down Low

83 posted on 11/23/2006 8:03:25 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: JessiLaurn
The only conclusion that Frisch and Hviid came to in this article is that marital choices are indeed affected by parental interactions (which I doubt comes as much of a surprise to anyone). It does not - in any way, shape or form - "debunk" or "disprove" a congenital theory for sexual orientation.

Perhaps you missed the last line of the article:

"Whatever ingredients determine a person's sexual preferences and marital choices," conclude the study's authors, "our population-based study shows that parental interactions are important."
The above conclusion states sexual preferences and marital choices are affected by parental interactions. That is, environment is a major factor in determining sexual preferences and any argument to the contrary is an argument not held by any credible scientist. Futhermore, there is no evidence supporting a congenital theory for sexual orientation and no credible scientist states otherwise.
84 posted on 11/23/2006 9:56:09 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: scripter
"were elevated among women who experienced maternal death during adolescence,

Rozie O'Donnell.

85 posted on 11/23/2006 9:59:55 PM PST by TAdams8591
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To: scripter
"Futhermore, there is no evidence supporting a congenital theory for sexual orientation and no credible scientist states otherwise."

I have always thought homosexuality, in most if not all instances, was explained by environmental and not genetic factors. The left of course would have us believe it's genetic, perfectly natural, and thus there is no cure.

86 posted on 11/23/2006 10:09:14 PM PST by TAdams8591
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To: IronJack

"Any word on the incidence of homosexuality among children raised by homosexuals?"

The study seems to be saying that the longer children are exposed to both parents during a heterosexual marriage, the less likely it is they will become homosexual.
It stands to reason that children of homosexual marriages would have the highest rate of developing homosexuality.


87 posted on 11/23/2006 10:19:50 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: TAdams8591
I have always thought homosexuality, in most if not all instances, was explained by environmental and not genetic factors.

I'm always amazed that those who believe feminine traits in men are in some way indicative of homosexuality or evidence in support of genetic factors behind homosexuality. Not only is that not supported by science, there are far more feminine heterosexual men then there are feminine gay men. There is so much information people don't have and they need it to be informed on this important cultural issue.

The left of course would have us believe it's genetic, perfectly natural, and thus there is no cure.

Indeed. And they'll block attempts to tell the truth that gays can change--the links in post 4 tell us change is indeed possible.

88 posted on 11/23/2006 10:19:55 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: scripter

Regardless of how or why they are/became homosexual, the God who made them can help them...


89 posted on 11/23/2006 10:27:15 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: scripter
"I'm always amazed that those who believe feminine traits in men are in some way indicative of homosexuality or evidence in support of genetic factors behind homosexuality. Not only is that not supported by science, there are far more feminine heterosexual men then there are feminine gay men. There is so much information people don't have and they need it to be informed on this important cultural issue."

Interesting point. I'm certain you've noticed on almost every TV program, there has to be a gay, usually male, couple. This is particularly true with the new comedies. I tuned from one channel to another because the one program had a gay couple, and finding the second program was also a new comedy, I bet my friend it too would have a gay couple. Unfortunately, I was of course correct.

The big joke on this second show is that two of the straight men behaved "gayer" (more effeminately) than the two manly men involved in the gay relationship. Though I saw the humor in the joke, and have witnessed such in real life, that program was also changed. Having homosexuality so consistently and persistently shoved in your face and down your throat gets old and tiresome.

90 posted on 11/23/2006 10:43:09 PM PST by TAdams8591
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To: scripter
BTW, with many gay men, the feminine way of talking (the lisp, etc) and behaving is all an act. I've seen them turn it on and off like a light switch.
91 posted on 11/23/2006 10:56:26 PM PST by TAdams8591
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To: AntiGuv
Why do the study's authors assume that the cohort of homosexuals and heterosexuals who marry is a representative sample of the entire population of homosexuals or heteresoxuals respectively?

Because they have an agenda?

93 posted on 11/24/2006 5:17:58 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: TAdams8591

I haven't noticed too much simply because I don't watch TV other than an occasional sci-fi show, but I've certainly heard and read about it.


94 posted on 11/24/2006 9:02:13 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: TAdams8591
BTW, with many gay men, the feminine way of talking (the lisp, etc) and behaving is all an act. I've seen them turn it on and off like a light switch.

Having seen this personally I completely agree.

95 posted on 11/24/2006 9:37:53 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: JessiLaurn
nowhere in the meat of the article was sexual preference addressed

Again from the article summary:

"Whatever ingredients determine a person's sexual preferences and marital choices," conclude the study's authors, "our population-based study shows that parental interactions are important."
The study reports parental interactions, that is the environment in which children are raised is important in determining sexual preference and marital choice. Your first post (82) apparently agrees with that. But then you changed the subject to congenital theories for sexual orientation, of which there is no scientific basis.

Then you complain about the meat of the article, which is a summary of a major study. Since there are no studies to support congenital factors in determining homosexuality, one's behavior and the words one professes are the only evidence available in determining homosexuality.

So... when somebody professes to be gay and marries somebody of the same sex, there is no other evidence to support their claim to be gay. You call this a rather poor gauge but that's the only available evidence anybody has to prove they're gay.

So we're back to square one. Environment is key in determining one's sexual preference.

96 posted on 11/24/2006 9:39:43 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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