Posted on 11/10/2006 12:41:34 PM PST by Vigilanteman
Nothing concrete yet and don't get your hopes up . . . but I have heard from a reliable source at Oklahoma University who is close to the Boren family (father is former senator, governor and current president of the university; son is the lone Democrat in the congressional delegation representing the state's easternmost counties) that many people in the District have family serving in the military in Iraq who have contacted his office and expressed extreme reservations about turning over control of key national security committees to national security risks. Pelosi is holding firm on her pledge to reorganize the house based on strict seniority, including turnover of chairmanship of the house intelligence committee to Congressman A. Hastings of Florida, an impeached federal judge who was convicted for bribery and judicial malfeasance on a near-unanimous vote when the Democrats controlled both houses of congress. If Pelosi does not compromise on national security related committees, then Boren is said to be considering a challenge to her as speaker. This is not an idle threat. Boren is a member of the Blue Dog Democrat coalition, a group which could have as many as 50 members once the new freshman class is sworn in.
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Boren is a Dem, with all that entails, but he's at least sane and relatively intelligent.
He would be a VASTLY superior alternative to the odious and idiotic Pelosi.
That is correct. Dan Boren easily won re-election on Tuesday, he did have a Republican challenger but it was not even close. I can't remember if Boren voted for Pelosi to be minority leader or not, now I wish I had kept all those letters he sends to his voters that tells how he votes!!!
Remember, speaker is voted on by the entire house. We only need 12 democrats to vote with a unified republican vote and Boren could be speaker.
There's definitely some confusion regarding this point at various websites, but this appears to be definitive:
At the commencement of each Congress, the Speaker, the four (4) Deputy Speakers, the Secretary General and the Sergeant-at-Arms shall be elected viva voce in successive order by a majority vote of all the Members, Provided, That in the election of the Speaker, the Secretary General shall call the roll and record the vote of each Member which shall be cast without explanation.---House Rules
In which case, I predict a whole helluva lot of triangulation from America's Top Ugly Leftist in the next two months.
I think they are just threatening in the hopes she will pick better committee chairs. Not so they can be speaker. I think republicans would vote for a conservative democrat speaker to keep Pelosi out, so the blue dogs wouldn't have to vote for a republican, but it's hard to imagine a democrat going into speaker without his own party support.
But the question that should be asked for every conservative democrat is this -- if the terrorists succeed in taking out our leadership, do they really believe Nancy Pelosi is ready or able to be the President of the United States?
Link to the Congressional map for Oklahoma:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=OK
1st district is Tulsa; 2nd district is NE OK and down the eastern side of the state and north of Tulsa; 3rd district is western oklahoma and northern OK meeting up with the 2nd; 4th district is part of OK County and south to the border and across south OK until it meets the 2nd district; and 5th district is most of Oklahoma County and several surrounding counties to the east.
bttt
Wasn't he a Freshman because he took Carson's seat? I cannot even remember who challenged him. I cannot remember if he voted for her or not but as a Freshman did he have a vote in the Caucus before he was sworn in?
That is a good question. One that is hard to answer at this very moment.
He did, when the 109th Congress convened in January 2005, the votes for Speaker went down party lines, thus Boren voted for Pelosi to be the leader of the democrat caucus.
A Pelosi speakership translates into a Republican president in '08.
Yes, he took Carson's seat (Thank God)...:) but I do not know if he was able to vote at that time or not. I cannot remember who challenged him either because they never have any chance of beating him.
Hard choice. However, I would have to say...... I would want what is best for the country.
There is just to much at stake to have loons in charge. I know we can't win every election, so we really do need to have some sane people on the other side.
They aren't. Like I said before, Pelosi has the votes sewn up to be Speaker better than a San Francisco drag queen's dress.
I agree with that answer.
That's the good thing about this election, Pelosi and the other kook cockroaches are finally going to be exposed to the light for all to see.
I tend to agree with you.
However, I am under no illusions. The Democrats would love to have the first women in history be Speaker of the House, which is why Pelosi will fight so hard for this position.
Sounds like the old Leo Durocher saying, NICE GUYS FINISH LAST...although that isn't really the quote...What Leo said when asked the prospects of his team he answered, "THEY'RE ALL NICE GUYS. THEY'LL PROBABLY FINISH LAST.
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