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Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse (BARF)
Time ^ | 11/10/2006 | ADAM ZAGORIN

Posted on 11/10/2006 11:04:55 AM PST by Tatze

Exclusive: Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse

A lawsuit in Germany will seek a criminal prosecution of the former Defense Secretary and other U.S. officials for their alleged role in abuses at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo

By ADAM ZAGORIN

Just days after his resignation, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is about to face more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers, for their alleged roles in abuses committed at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison and at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The plaintiffs in the case include 11 Iraqis who were prisoners at Abu Ghraib, as well as Mohammad al-Qahtani, a Saudi held at Guantanamo, whom the U.S. has identified as the so-called "20th hijacker" and a would-be participant in the 9/11 hijackings. As TIME first reported in June 2005, Qahtani underwent a "special interrogation plan," personally approved by Rumsfeld, which the U.S. says produced valuable intelligence. But to obtain it, according to the log of his interrogation and government reports, Qahtani was subjected to forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, prolonged stress positions, sleep deprivation and other controversial interrogation techniques.

Lawyers for the plaintiffs say that one of the witnesses who will testify on their behalf is former Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, the one-time commander of all U.S. military prisons in Iraq. Karpinski — who the lawyers say will be in Germany next week to publicly address her accusations in the case — has issued a written statement to accompany the legal filing, which says, in part: "It was clear the knowledge and responsibility [for what happened at Abu Ghraib] goes all the way to the top of the chain of command to the Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld ."

A spokesperson for the Pentagon told TIME there would be no comment since the case has not yet been filed.

Along with Rumsfeld, Gonzales and Tenet, the other defendants in the case are Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Stephen Cambone; former assistant attorney general Jay Bybee; former deputy assisant attorney general John Yoo; General Counsel for the Department of Defense William James Haynes II; and David S. Addington, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff. Senior military officers named in the filing are General Ricardo Sanchez, the former top Army official in Iraq; Gen. Geoffrey Miller, the former commander of Guantanamo; senior Iraq commander, Major General Walter Wojdakowski; and Col. Thomas Pappas, the one-time head of military intelligence at Abu Ghraib.

Germany was chosen for the court filing because German law provides "universal jurisdiction" allowing for the prosecution of war crimes and related offenses that take place anywhere in the world. Indeed, a similar, but narrower, legal action was brought in Germany in 2004, which also sought the prosecution of Rumsfeld. The case provoked an angry response from Pentagon, and Rumsfeld himself was reportedly upset. Rumsfeld's spokesman at the time, Lawrence DiRita, called the case a "a big, big problem." U.S. officials made clear the case could adversely impact U.S.-Germany relations, and Rumsfeld indicated he would not attend a major security conference in Munich, where he was scheduled to be the keynote speaker, unless Germany disposed of the case. The day before the conference, a German prosecutor announced he would not pursue the matter, saying there was no indication that U.S. authorities and courts would not deal with allegations in the complaint.

In bringing the new case, however, the plaintiffs argue that circumstances have changed in two important ways. Rumsfeld's resignation, they say, means that the former Defense Secretary will lose the legal immunity usually accorded high government officials. Moreover, the plaintiffs argue that the German prosecutor's reasoning for rejecting the previous case — that U.S. authorities were dealing with the issue — has been proven wrong.

"The utter and complete failure of U.S. authorities to take any action to investigate high-level involvement in the torture program could not be clearer," says Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a U.S.-based non-profit helping to bring the legal action in Germany. He also notes that the Military Commissions Act, a law passed by Congress earlier this year, effectively blocks prosecution in the U.S. of those involved in detention and interrogation abuses of foreigners held abroad in American custody going to back to Sept. 11, 2001. As a result, Ratner contends, the legal arguments underlying the German prosecutor's previous inaction no longer hold up.

Whatever the legal merits of the case, it is the latest example of efforts in Western Europe by critics of U.S. tactics in the war on terror to call those involved to account in court. In Germany, investigations are under way in parliament concerning cooperation between the CIA and German intelligence on rendition — the kidnapping of suspected terrorists and their removal to third countries for interrogation. Other legal inquiries involving rendition are under way in both Italy and Spain.

U.S. officials have long feared that legal proceedings against "war criminals" could be used to settle political scores. In 1998, for example, former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet — whose military coup was supported by the Nixon administration — was arrested in the U.K. and held for 16 months in an extradition battle led by a Spanish magistrate seeking to charge him with war crimes. He was ultimately released and returned to Chile. More recently, a Belgian court tried to bring charges against then Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon for alleged crimes against Palestinians.

For its part, the Bush Administration has rejected adherence to the International Criminal Court (ICC) on grounds that it could be used to unjustly prosecute U.S. officials. The ICC is the first permanent tribunal established to prosecute war crimes, genocide and other crimes against humanity.


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KEYWORDS: abughraib; germany; iraq; ratner; rummy; rumsfeld
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121 posted on 11/10/2006 12:06:08 PM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: cydcharisse

It's truly a scandal that such a worthless slug as Karpinski ever made it past the rank of Captain. And since she was in charge of the prisons (before being fired for blatant incompetence), isn't she just as arrestable as Rumsfeld?


122 posted on 11/10/2006 12:06:22 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." - GW Bush, referring to DNC's lack of a platform on ANYTHING)
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To: Tatze

Rummy did his job in defending us. Now we should defend him.


123 posted on 11/10/2006 12:06:22 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I wonder if they will go after all the German companies that did business with Saddam and provided him with WMD technology.


124 posted on 11/10/2006 12:06:35 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Ditter

LOL! You are forgiven...a woman ALWAYS has the option of deception regarding her age...and a gentleman NEVER asks...:)


125 posted on 11/10/2006 12:08:06 PM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: popdonnelly

Yup. I agree with you 100%.

But...trust me...SecDef Rumsfeld is a safe man. He is secure in himself, and knows what he has done for his country.


126 posted on 11/10/2006 12:09:25 PM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: Tatze
Every time I think that regular joes need to stand up and run for office, something happens to remind me of how insane you would have to be to get involved in politics.

What a friggin p.c. nightmare.

127 posted on 11/10/2006 12:10:44 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: rottndog

I am not trying to flame you or anyone else for that matter, but for crying out loud, will some of you get off of the feeding frenzy.

This place is sounding more and more like a bunch of libs at one of their famous funerals. All this kind of garbage talk does is help the other side. They did it to us before the election and here we are.... eating our own again......and all based on fantasy and dim propaganda.

Of course President Bush would back Rummy!!!!!


128 posted on 11/10/2006 12:10:53 PM PST by Gator113
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To: rottndog

Yup, sounds like surviving family members of 40,000+ dead Kurds have a case. Too hell with suing the Germans, that's grounds for military action against Germany.


129 posted on 11/10/2006 12:11:22 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." - GW Bush, referring to DNC's lack of a platform on ANYTHING)
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To: cydcharisse
General Karpinski, head of all US prisons in Iraq is testifying for the plaintiffs!


130 posted on 11/10/2006 12:13:03 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: rlmorel

good post...


131 posted on 11/10/2006 12:13:37 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: Tatze
This has nothing to with Germany.This is the democrats sending it to Germany as the venue.
So much for those lying democrats.They have their fingerprints all over this.
132 posted on 11/10/2006 12:14:51 PM PST by ricoshea
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To: Tatze

Rush was saying that the Democrats will naturally glom on to this and justify their intentions by siting the German example. "If we want to keep our self-respect, we need to investigate too."


133 posted on 11/10/2006 12:16:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: rlmorel

We are really in for a battle, my friend. The prez is considering George Mitchell as UN ambassador. George McGovern is going to tell Congress how to retreat. The terrorist stock has really risen around the world.


134 posted on 11/10/2006 12:17:13 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: livius
Not surprising that it was in Germany. I have found the Germans in general to be even more anti-American than the French.

Well what do you expect? We did kick their butts two times :)
135 posted on 11/10/2006 12:17:20 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: The Blitherer

I sure hope he isn't going to be used as a scapegoat or to appease anyone.


136 posted on 11/10/2006 12:20:26 PM PST by PaRepub07
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To: listenhillary
Time to get a comprehensive list together of imports and German based corporations in the USA.

As a first start, I think I will make copies of this thread and drop them off at our local BMW, VW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, and Porsche dealers. There will be NO German car in my future.

137 posted on 11/10/2006 12:21:00 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Tatze
There are no words to express the level of outrageousness and visciousness of such charges against Rumsfeld, the President or anyone else in authority regarding the sincere prosecution of a war meant to protect America, the west and other nations world wide against terrorism.

Those who thought the mention of such potential possibilites should the democrats win was a strategy of fearmongering, were dreadfully wrong. We are going to pay a high price for the loss of this past election. We must be certain this power loss for Republicans ends with the next eletion.

138 posted on 11/10/2006 12:21:59 PM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: rlmorel

Don't miss the terrorists thanking the Dems on YouTube ---

http://youtube.com/watch?v=agMaBD1MoRg


139 posted on 11/10/2006 12:22:06 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: Gator113

Initial venting reaction to the Drudge Report.

I'll wait for Bush to respond about the charges before I react again, but to this point I am skeptical.


140 posted on 11/10/2006 12:25:52 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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