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Life and Death in the Culture War (O'Reilly's comments on abortion)
Foxnews ^ | 11/10/06 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 11/10/2006 9:56:18 AM PST by scottdeus12

You know, I've been covering the news in America for 30 years and this Kansas situation is the worst thing I've ever seen.

A doctor named George Tiller is operating a late-term abortion mill that will destroy a viable baby up until birthing for a mental health exception, which much of the time is an episode of simple depression experienced by the mother.

Wednesday night on this broadcast, a pro-life advocate told us that Tiller injects poison into the baby's heart while it is still in the womb, then removes the dead baby and cremates it. We have not been able to confirm the cremation assertion, but a letter purported to be from Tiller himself describes the injection.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: abortion; cultureofdeath; georgetiller; moloch; moralabsolutes; oreilly; prolife; tiller
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1 posted on 11/10/2006 9:56:20 AM PST by scottdeus12
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This is some sick stuff folks. The Culture of Death in America is frightening.....


2 posted on 11/10/2006 9:56:53 AM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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Does he have any comments on making perverted phone calls to your co-workers?


3 posted on 11/10/2006 9:57:29 AM PST by The_Republican (So Dark The Con of Man)
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To: scottdeus12
How does some talk-show blowhard get access to private medical records?

This story doesn't pass the smell test....

4 posted on 11/10/2006 9:57:46 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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3rd paragraph:

"Wednesday night on this broadcast, a pro-life advocate told us..."


5 posted on 11/10/2006 9:59:37 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: The_Republican

I am not sure how that is relevant to this story.


6 posted on 11/10/2006 10:00:23 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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You know....BOH isn't the end all be all but your comments regarding "phone calls" doesn't contribute to the debate.....do you mean to imply that because BOR may have skeletons in his closet that his view of the abortion issue is without merit? It's smart assed comments like this on this forum that lessen your credibility...not his.
7 posted on 11/10/2006 10:00:27 AM PST by superfries
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Do the math $5,000 per partial birth abortion x 1000 procedures = $5,000,000 buckaroos...(and some dead babies)
8 posted on 11/10/2006 10:00:31 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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"Wednesday night on this broadcast, a pro-life advocate told us..."

Yes, those evil "pro-life advocates" will do or say ANYTHING to save a fetus, won't they?

9 posted on 11/10/2006 10:00:39 AM PST by The Blitherer (In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.)
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The Culture of Death in America is frightening.....

But it's SO EASY TO IGNORE when you can shoot the messenger instead! O'Reilly is bringing much-needed NATIONAL attention to a monster that has been on the Pro-Life radar screen for YEARS... but hey - O'REILLY'S A BLOWHARD, SO WHO CARES? / rant.

10 posted on 11/10/2006 10:00:53 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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"This is some sick stuff folks. The Culture of Death in America is frightening....."

People don't care. Taking shots at the person trying to expose this is far more important because he has some personality traits that some find undesirable. It's far more important to bash O'Reilly cause it shows people on the internet how witty some think they are.


11 posted on 11/10/2006 10:01:11 AM PST by L98Fiero (Libertarian = Scapegoat)
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What kind of a vile, sick, twisted piece of human excrement could ever perform such a horific procedure? They are no better than a mass murderer.


12 posted on 11/10/2006 10:02:06 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: scottdeus12; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; anniegetyourgun; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

13 posted on 11/10/2006 10:02:41 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: The Blitherer

Did anyone see the segment? Is there more information on who this guest is?


14 posted on 11/10/2006 10:02:41 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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Kansas Attorney General Kline Defeated by Challenger Morrison (Tiller the Baby Killer's AG )
15 posted on 11/10/2006 10:02:48 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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He can't do it without nurses. And he'd better cremate on site. Wonder if he mans the ovens himself?


16 posted on 11/10/2006 10:03:16 AM PST by Mamzelle
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I agree. I don't have much time for O'Reilly, but his support of children, born and unborn, is superb.


17 posted on 11/10/2006 10:03:39 AM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: The_Republican

Your equating phone calls to the murder of a baby?


18 posted on 11/10/2006 10:03:53 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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Is this the same guy whose clinic offers to hold memorial services after the "ceremony"?


19 posted on 11/10/2006 10:05:41 AM PST by workerbee (Democrats are a waste of tax money and good oxygen.)
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READ IT AND WEEP FOLKS!!


A Witness to Partial-birth Abortion


In March of 2002, we received communication from a retired nurse who witnessed two partial-birth abortions. Scott Johnston of our research department conducted the following interview with her.

What kind of nursing were you ordinarily doing around the time that these abortions took place?

"Obstetrics."

How many partial birth abortions did you personally witness?

"Two full-term abortions. They were done at nine months."

What do you know of the circumstances surrounding these abortions? Why were they being done?

"One of the mothers already had three or four and she didn't want any more."

"The other girl was single. She didn't have a husband and had no means of support. I asked, 'Why don't you put the baby up for adoption?' She said, 'I don't know how it would be treated.'"

"The doctor was an O.B. doctor. I would say he was not of the highest caliber either. He had a bad reputation. He had a lot of deaths of babies that were born because he did not take care of them properly. He was sloppy. Normally, this doctor would be in the farthest back delivery room. When they did abortions, the doctors usually had their own nurse. This one didn't. He was a sleezeball."

How did it come to be that you were present for these abortions?

"I did not know what I was going into. I was just told to assist him [the doctor]. They just told me which delivery room to go to."

"The reason I was in on [the first trimester abortion] is because I said to the doctor: even in the first trimester those babies have pain. 'I'll bet you it hurts, too.'"

Did you know ahead of time for each case that an abortion was going to be done?

"No."

Who else was in the room?

"There was one other nurse."

What were your nursing duties during these procedures?

"I was usually there to receive the baby and take care of the baby when it was born. Their little hands--they grasp for something. They try to grab hold of something."

Can you describe the partial-birth abortions you witnessed? What did you see?

"He turned the baby around [in the womb] and brought it out feet first. That's one of the worse things for the mother that you can do. I was helping the doctor hold the baby [to keep it in the birth canal]. The other nurse got the instrument [a large syringe with a large needle], handed it to the doctor, and he inserted it into the base of the skull. Then he pulled the baby out. Its little hands were grasping. When the baby quit grasping, then he delivered it. He used the syringe to suction out the brains. That's more traumatic on the mother than if she had given a normal birth."

"They took the [dead] baby and wrapped it up in a receiving blanket and asked her [the mother] if she wanted to hold it. She said she didn't want to. Neither one of them wanted to see them."

"They were sent to the morgue."

What was your reaction?

"I was so sick. I was absolutely nauseous. I couldn't believe all that was taking place."

"I told the charge nurse I didn't want to work with him anymore."

"I think it's such a horrible thing. I said a prayer for those babies."

What was the reaction of the other personnel who were present with you at these abortions?

"With the doctor, he was so nonchalant. It was no big thing."

"I never saw her [the other nurse] reactions."

You also witnessed a first trimester abortion. Please describe what happened.

"The doctor did a sonogram to show me that the baby didn't feel it. On the sonogram, when he started the suction, the baby's arms spread out. It immediately threw its hands out. Its little arms spread out. So, you know it had to feel it.

[The instrument used for the first trimester abortion] it is a silver tube with stainless steel blades on it. He inserts it first, and then turns on the suction. The baby comes out all shredded. 'Now, you watch this, and you'll see how it doesn't feel a thing.' [The doctor said] I think it was kind of shocking to him. I looked at him and he looked at me, and then he wouldn't look at me after that. I don't think he had used a sonogram before during an abortion. It was over in a short period of time."

"That doctor is not here [at the same hospital] anymore. He had so many malpractice suits he had to leave town."

What is the reaction of people you have talked to since then about what happened?

"Anybody who starts talking about partial birth abortion, I say, 'Do you know what it is?' And I tell them what it is! They just usually look kind of wide-eyed with their mouths open. And one girl said, 'I don't believe you.' I said, 'why should I stand up here and lie to you?' Most people are just shocked."


20 posted on 11/10/2006 10:11:10 AM PST by Beth528
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