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Gingrich says Bush, GOP to blame for defeat
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 11/09/06 | TOM BAXTER

Posted on 11/10/2006 6:59:08 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: John Lenin
The man is responsible for the republican revolution that just came to an end.

The Republican Revolution basically ended in 1998. It has been running on nothing more than momentum -- along with some big-time Democrat incompetence -- for the last 8 years.

341 posted on 11/10/2006 10:46:33 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Perdogg
Newts legislative and personal miscalculations in the mid 90s almost costs the GOP both Houses in 1998.

Quite true. And Bush's arrogance and the incompetence of Rumsfeld and his Pentagon pussies cost us the Congress. The pathetic P.C. "war" they waged in Iraq was a disgrace. The Joint Chiefs and all the top brass should be canned as well. They couldn't wipe MacArthur's ass.

342 posted on 11/10/2006 10:49:39 AM PST by montag813
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To: DrDeb

I am willing to forgive Bush's mistakes, though I see them as far bigger and more numerious. But I am also willing to be critical of a policy that is simply wrong. Amnesty being front and center once the new Congress is seated. Newt made tactical mistakes in pursue of conservative goals. Bush has made stratgic mistakes in pursuit of some fuzzy globalist thing that is in direct conflict with (my brand of ) conservativism. So he get to hear more complaints from me then Newt does.


343 posted on 11/10/2006 10:51:20 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Always Right

I'm waiting to hear the Demcrats' great new ideas.......Has the Mexican border problem been fixed yet? What about the millions of illegal aliens? Has Kim been removed yet? Have the terrorists surrendered yet? Has unemployment fallen to 3.1%? Have we stopped importing oil from hostile countries? Is there a cure for AIDS (surely they know how to fix this)? Has a cure for Alzheimer's been found? For cancer? What about New Orleans? What are the Democrats waiting for? I thought they won........get with it, Demagogues.


344 posted on 11/10/2006 10:51:45 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: PzLdr

Why do you care what the Democrats would have thought of a Rumsfield resignation in August or September?

Do you think that they really were planning to vote Republican and that the resignation would jeopardize that?

You have to motivate those who actually might vote your way, not those who never will.

And having Rumsfield resign 5-6 months ago would have motivated those more concerned with the WOT.


345 posted on 11/10/2006 10:52:28 AM PST by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breathe some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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To: Wuli
Nothing I've posted here has anything remotely to do with Newt's personal life. He basically capitulated to the Clinton administration in the late 1990s, and most of the energy from the 1994 campaign was gone after that.

Newt was at his best when he was leading the opposition -- not when he was leading the governing party.

346 posted on 11/10/2006 10:52:39 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: betsyross1776
Did the ex-wife actually die? I don't ever remember reading that,but I do miss a lot. Please tell me whether she is alive or dead. Thanks.
347 posted on 11/10/2006 10:52:47 AM PST by saradippity
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To: Pokey78; Txsleuth; MaineVoter2002; Mad Dawgg; LibLieSlayer; cloud8; FightThePower!; Blackirish; ...
"Newt appears to have forgotten the 11th Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."

And

"Thank you! After reading FR for these last few days I was wondering if any Reaganites were left besides me.

As someone else has commented, Reagan was an expert communicator and knew how to state a policy preference, different from another Republican's while trying avoid attacking the person.

For exampple, in one instance, I think Newt could have simply said: "I think if Rummy was going to leave, it might have been a better idea to have told that to everyone before the election".. and left it at that, with no embellishment.

348 posted on 11/10/2006 10:53:40 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

I dont care about his lapses. But the media will crucify
and take him off message.

If it was not big deal, why did he leave in the middle of
the repub revolution.

Peace


349 posted on 11/10/2006 10:55:04 AM PST by mtairycitizen
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To: gogogodzilla

The truth is, this Election Day repudiation of the Bush administration really should have taken place in 2004 by all measures. If the Democratic Party hadn't put up a guy who may well have been the worst presidential candidate south of Walter Mondale, it probably would have.


350 posted on 11/10/2006 10:55:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Best time would have been to take Foley off of the front page. Or Macaca for that matter.


351 posted on 11/10/2006 10:55:43 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: jackv

"Now the liberal agenda moves forward"


Much of it was moving forward with Bush, also. Maybe those that stayed home just figured at least if it were democrats doing it, then it's to be expected. Can't blame the lib agenda coming our way on me. As I said, I did my part. Just putting the blame where it belongs. With the republicans.


352 posted on 11/10/2006 10:56:55 AM PST by Ozarkie
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To: Alberta's Child

Welfare reform was a "capitulation" to Clinton???

It's been one of the most major, most conservative and most successful reforms in "social" policies since the 1940s.

The balanced budget process was a capitulation?

How about the failure of "Hillarycare", that was a capitulation? How about the impeachment? That was a capitulation? How about the DOM, that was a capitulation?

What was the capitulation for which you totally discount everything else.


353 posted on 11/10/2006 10:59:36 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Gaffer
I believe part of the problem with the GOP started with Newt Gingrich.

Newt was certainly not given a fair shake by the MSM when he became speaker. However, he did not leave because of them. He was not a good spokesman or leader. He was and probably still is a visionary. He can serve best in a think tank coming up with good ideas, not getting on TV and bashing our Republican president.

Every person supposedly on the Republican side who has publicly snisped at President Bush owns part of this election loss. I doubt if many of them meant their harsh words to end up with a sweep of both houses, but their negativity added up.

354 posted on 11/10/2006 11:01:12 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: ZULU
The thing to do now is pul together and plan how to fight the fiends who have stolen Congress.

Well, I don't think they stole it. We gave it away.

355 posted on 11/10/2006 11:02:55 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: Wuli

If you read my post you will see that I support Newt.

He has the best political mind of the era. He is gone because he is feared.

In the overall scheme of things his transgression are minimal. When compared to the corruption that permeates the left and the political machines of the urban areas Newt is a saint. No man is free of transgressions if there is a desire to bring him down.

Newt is a historian and thinks in chunks of a decade and larger. He layed out the plan, secured the power and the Republicans threw it away.


356 posted on 11/10/2006 11:03:27 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: Wuli
"For exampple, in one instance, I think Newt could have simply said: "I think if Rummy was going to leave, it might have been a better idea to have told that to everyone before the election".. and left it at that, with no embellishment."

Yes! When you disagree with someone do it with a smile on your face.

357 posted on 11/10/2006 11:04:31 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: MaineVoter2002
Reagan had an X-wife. But he was no good too. So lets put up Bob Dole. He waited for his first wife to die before he married the RINO Liz. No, he too was divorced. The strictures some on this thread place on our nominee seem arbitrary. So, Hillary the enabler tells the world that Oval Office head is not a deal killer. Newt hasn't sunk that low. He has been in the desert over 10 years now. Perhaps he has learned something. And I, with all of my sin and transgression, feel too august to hear him out. Wait, David, the Apple of Gods eye got a hearing with God even after worse transgressions.

The fact of the matter is that we will never find Ronald Reagan again. We as a country have left our first home and love for freedom and now have voted for a false security, and will be accorded neither. Have you heard anything Newt Gingrich has said? It sounds to me like he is taking a realistic, unvarnished view of what just happened on Tuesday. But some want to say , yes, we have cancer, but give me the tylenol and I will be just fine. First make the accurate diagnosis and the remedy will be self eveident. Self delusion is etherial and wrong headed. We got our asses whipped because the Republicans left home, became complacent, didn't do their jobs, and abandoned first principles of conservatism. The battle was lost before Nov. 7, 2006. The dems have won and offer an illusion of safty, prosperity, temporal enthusiasm, and grave danger to a nation which now have leaders who do not have an understanding of the times to know what must be done. We are a ship, rudderless. A confounded people who have abandoned the honorable who said they would stand in the gap and not let the terrorist kill our children. Now, we must be brave enough to tell ourselves the truth and honest enough to act on it, or this nation will be perilously close to falling. Open borders...one well placed WMD (pick your poison, chemical, biological, nuclear) and then what. WE will stand up strong and proud. We got a birds-eye-view of burning people jumping from 90 stories up, and have already forgotten the lession. That was 5 short years ago. So, Phoenix is wiped off of the face of earth. Well we only lost 500.000. Will we be moved by that and it hold our attention? Our silly history of recent tells me that we will not.

358 posted on 11/10/2006 11:04:47 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: saradippity

15,000 'earmarks' (personal add-ons from individual representatives), for local projects, and not individually voted on, worth $10 billion added to last years spending bills in the House

a 1,000% reversal from the 1994 GOP campaign that complained about 1,500 such earmarks

to the GOP base, that said a lot


359 posted on 11/10/2006 11:04:51 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Alberta's Child

Yeah, that's about right.

:-(


360 posted on 11/10/2006 11:05:45 AM PST by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breathe some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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