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Pelosi Says Iraq Is Not "a War To Win"
Bottom Line Up Front ^ | 11/09/06 | Amy Procttor

Posted on 11/10/2006 6:57:10 AM PST by Col. Bob

Nancy Pelosi was interviewed on Fox Report tonight and asked what her plan for victory in Iraq would look like. After a few seconds of stammering, the obvious awkward moment ended. Here's Nancy Pelosi on defining victory in Iraq:

“The point is this isn’t a war to win, it’s a situation to solve. And you define ‘winning’ any way you want, but you must solve this problem.”

"This isn't a war to win"? This is the next SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES? We're doomed.

See the video on Amy's URL:

Discover the Network put it this way:

"Bipartisanship" has been a keyword in many of Pelosi's speeches. In an address she delivered in 2002, for instance, she remarked, "We must stand together in a bipartisan way to fight the war against terrorism." Though she supported the Clinton Administration's military actions in Haiti, Kosovo, and Bosnia, she has denounced both the 1991 and 2003 wars in Iraq. Pelosi has also opposed President George W. Bush on most issues of Homeland Security, and has most recently joined the ACLU's crusade to limit the powers of the Patriot Act.

Hypocrisy anyone?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; pelosi; waronterror
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To: Verginius Rufus
What's the source for Kosovo being a motivation? The hijackers died in the attacks--did they leave videos explaining their motives?

The "Martydom Videos" recently released by Al Qaeda have at least two of the 9/11 hijackers saying that the US intervention in Kosovo was on their list of grievances that caused them to participate in the destruction of the World Trade Center. These videos were made about a year before the attacks, while these hijackers were still in training.

The fact that we intervened in Kosovo in their favor completely escapes them. I have to conclude that they don't really care. They are going to attack us, no matter what we do.

Appeasment never works. But it extra-especially-doubleplus doesn't work when your enemy is crazy. The only acceptable end point for them is for us to be converted, enslaved or dead. If we're not willing to come across with one of those three conditions, they aren't interested in our efforts to appease.

141 posted on 11/10/2006 10:33:52 AM PST by gridlock (My Prognosticator Unit is busted, and stuck on "ROSY". Predictions may be unreliable.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I am listening to Rush and heard it on a newsbreak minutes ago.


142 posted on 11/10/2006 10:35:16 AM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: Col. Bob
“The point is this isn’t a war to win, it’s a situation to solve. And you define ‘winning’ any way you want, but you must solve this problem.”

Perhaps the last time Pelosi got a face lift, the doctor streched her brain instead of her skin.

143 posted on 11/10/2006 10:38:04 AM PST by stripes1776
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To: gridlock
The fact that we intervened in Kosovo in their favor completely escapes them. I have to conclude that they don't really care.

al-Qaeda is an alarming development in terrorism.

Early terrorism was some combination of nationalist, ideological, or sectarian. As more nation-states emerged, the nationalist character faded into obscurity.

What we're seeing now is post-ideological and post-sectarian terror, combined with a business franchise model for group affiliation.

In short, al-Qaeda should be called McQaeda--fighting against the evils of Western secularism while using one of the prime tools of Western secularism's business practice. (Irony is so ironic.) McDonald's gives you inedible food at a fairly low price. McQaeda gives you Koranic quotes and a theology of salvation through nihilistic violence. At that point, everything becomes a justification for violence. Note that the vast majority of victims of Islamist terror are themselves devout Muslims.

144 posted on 11/10/2006 10:41:28 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: gridlock
I don't believe that we intervened in Kosovo in their favor. Overall, about 70% of Albanians are classified as Muslim, 20% Orthodox, and 10% Catholic (Mother Teresa of Calcutta was an Albanian Catholic from Macedonia), but after decades of Communists pushing atheism and the general decline of religion in Europe, it was mainly atheists whose grandparents were Serbian Orthodox killing atheists whose grandparents were Muslims or athenists whose grandparents were Catholics (or the reverse, atheist "Muslims" killing atheist "Christians"). That's not to deny there were some actual believers in each group, but I don't think they were the majority.

The conflict in Kosovo seemed to be mainly ethnic rather than religious--I don't think any Albanians who were Orthodox Christians identified with the Serbs against Albanians of Muslim background.

Of course in this case what matters is how the Islamo-fascists perceived it, rather than the reality.

145 posted on 11/10/2006 10:58:07 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

For a bunch of Athiests, those Albanians sure seemed intent on destroying churches!


146 posted on 11/10/2006 10:59:55 AM PST by gridlock (My Prognosticator Unit is busted, and stuck on "ROSY". Predictions may be unreliable.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Maybe the senator-elect from Rhode Island should hire security, in case they give up on attacking the White House and just go after a Whitehouse.
147 posted on 11/10/2006 11:00:42 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: gridlock

What's surprising about atheists destroying churches? Stalin did it. I think there was a lot of that in Bosnia and Croatia during the warfare of the 1990s--people targeting houses of worship of the enemy group. All it shows is hatred of the other group.


148 posted on 11/10/2006 11:05:06 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: TAdams8591
The editorial writers of The New York Times in particular are so obsessed with their Bush-hatred that they never seem to consider that a successful terror attack on New York City might kill them.
149 posted on 11/10/2006 11:07:07 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: TomGuy

Since you seem to know, who is getting rich from this war? Lay out some facts to back your bold statement. Easy to say, but if you are going to say it, prove it.


150 posted on 11/10/2006 11:11:18 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Amazing, isn't it?


151 posted on 11/10/2006 11:15:40 AM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: gridlock
...If we cannot rally the American People against an enemy as manifestly evil as this, then there is nothing left of this country to defend...

Not exactly. The south still understands what is at stake and is still providing its young as warriors to the battle. The rot has not spread as deep here as in other parts of the country and we might yet save at least this part.

152 posted on 11/10/2006 11:30:48 AM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: jan in Colorado

Thanks for the ping Jan! Will have to wait until tomorrow.


153 posted on 11/10/2006 11:52:13 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody
Will have to wait until tomorrow

You may prefer to skip it. It will make you sick!

154 posted on 11/10/2006 11:59:17 AM PST by jan in Colorado (The ENEMEDIA...aiding and abetting the terrorists!)
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To: indylindy
Since you seem to know, who is getting rich from this war? Lay out some facts to back your bold statement. Easy to say, but if you are going to say it, prove it.

These from just a cursory google search:

AEGIS $293 million contract in Iraq (2004)
BearingPoint $240 million contract (2004)
Lockheed Martin $21.9 billion (2003) [Their stocks have tripled since 2000]

You can read more here: The Center for Corporate Policy's Ten Worst War Profiteers of 2004

Of course, it is a hit-piece, but it also shows that a heck of allot of money is being circulated. Those are your tax dollars. Notice some of the personalities associated with some of those companies, too. You should be able to recognize several who are former governmental officials and politicians.

If you really wanted to, you could probably do some research on your own and compile a list of many more companies. If you really wanted to.....sometimes ignorance is bliss, however.
155 posted on 11/10/2006 2:25:01 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Col. Bob

Pelosi voices the 09/10/2006 mindset of the Democrat party and their liberal MSM enablers.




Amen. This should be laminated and handed out to people when the get their driver's license.


156 posted on 11/10/2006 2:26:19 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: TomGuy

What I notice is where your info comes from. I checked it out. You did some work on this. The Info is suspect as to their motivation as is yours.

Do not add little liberal "try to fool the conservative" lines in your conversation. You are very transparent. Come out and admit you are a liberal.

You can tell one from their conversation

class warfare
Hating affluence(unless they are rich democrats , Rockefeller, Kennedy, Pelosi, the crook, Harry Reid, just to name a few)
Extreme vitriol for Republicans

These are just a few, many more are able to be named as soon as they are pegged. I will give you credit for taking the time and effort to find some liberal places to go to prove your liberal point.

By the way, many of these companies you pointed out were quite profitable and weren't ready for a garage sale before the war.

I just wish you would quit masquerading.

There isn't a business out there that isn't in it to make a profit. A lot of these companies have probably made your little liberal life better.

Conservatism , it works every time, even in this last election. Democrats tried it and it worked. Much to your dismay.





157 posted on 11/10/2006 3:01:09 PM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: indylindy
What are you talking about?

Your rant doesn't even come close to making good sense, because you forgot what the original topic was.

You begin casting allegations: You are very transparent. Come out and admit you are a liberal. That has nothing to do with the topic. But it is easier to change the issue, isn't it. That is a typical tactic by those who refuse to accept facts that are presented to them regarding the original topic.

I said basically that there are companies that profit from war.

Your response is "you are a liberal".

Maybe you were just having a blond moment. Read some history. There were significant investigations into serious profiteering even during the Civil War.
158 posted on 11/10/2006 3:27:01 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Col. Bob
The point is this isn’t a war to win, it’s a situation to solve. And you define ‘winning’ any way you want, but you must solve this problem.”

I wonder if she remembers the significance of todays and tomorrows date.

159 posted on 11/10/2006 3:30:43 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: TomGuy

Blow it out your "leftist ear"


160 posted on 11/10/2006 3:39:36 PM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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