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Spot-on report describes 3-missile attack (on TWA 800)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9 November 2006 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 11/09/2006 9:04:16 AM PST by Hal1950

This week I received a communication from retired United Airline Capt. Ray Lahr. It contained two items of great interest – one dollop of good legal news and one unexpected and truly incredible report.

The legal news concerned Ray's success in Los Angeles District Court after years of "long and lonely and expensive" effort. Judge Howard Matz had succinctly mandated that "Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shall produce to plaintiff the material set forth in Exhibit A and the National Transportation Safety Board shall produce to plaintiff the material set forth in Exhibit B." Significantly, the judge also authorized Lahr attorney John Clarke to file for fees and costs. This is a definite win.

Lahr has been suing for release of the information that the two agencies in question had used to produce their notorious zoom-climb animation subsequent to the 1996 downing of TWA Flight 800 over Long Island – animation that was used to discredit the testimony of hundreds of eyewitnesses, many of them military and aviation personnel. Lahr sees this animation as the Achilles' heel of a consciously skewed investigation, and in this he is correct.

Lahr also sent me a CD review of the case titled merely "TWA Flight 800 Crash Evidence Review," which I will hereafter refer to as "the Review." Before I finished reading it, I sent Lahr an e-mail, which read in part:

"Brilliant work on your explication. I am only halfway through it, but I am totally impressed. Everything else that has gone before it is the work of amateurs, mine included."

The message I got back from Lahr, however, floored me. He did not write this report. He received it anonymously in the mail. I was stunned. The Review in question is the most sophisticated piece of investigative reporting that I have ever read on this or any other crash. The unknown author likely put years into this work. He surely comes from within the aviation community, which may explain his desire for anonymity. He argues crisply, patiently and comprehensively. He provides ample illustration of his contentions and rarely, if ever, does he exceed his knowledge base.

Most impressive is his knowing synthesis of all the available evidence – radar, eyewitness, physical, audio, GPS, debris field – to recreate in detail the flight taken and damage done by each of the missiles fired at TWA Flight 800. What is more, the author uses only the evidence that was available to the National Transportation Safety Board to reach conclusions that they should have reached with the same data.

The Review author believes that based on the debris field alone, "the administration would have known within the first two weeks after the crash that missiles brought down the aircraft." Although prudent in his accusations, he strongly suspects that the long delay in recovering the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder indicates that the decision to misdirect the investigation "actually occurred the night of the disaster." With this conclusion, I fully concur.

No one who reads this Review can doubt for a moment that the government has engaged in a massive misdirection in the gathering of evidence. Every major media outlet owes it to its audience to assign its best technical writer to read and review this work. The one CD includes the entire NTSB report as well.

To make things simple, I will happily provide a copy of the entire Review to any interested major media party. The author asked that the information be shared. Interested observers, who are willing to identify themselves, can obtain a pdf copy of Part I of the Review by contacting me through my website, .

In the weeks to come, I will break down the information into manageable chunks. For now, allow me to summarize the author's approach. The Review is divided into four parts. Each of the first three parts is dedicated to the destructive path of one given missile.

In the way of example, the author argues that the first of the three was a large surface-to-air missile launched from 16 to 22 miles west of the crash site. The missile approached the aircraft on a descending track from the rear and struck it without exploding. The author is very specific in his detail, to wit, "This impact broke the horizontal stabilizer pitch trim jackscrew in tension and caused the aircraft to pitch upward." Not all the writing is this technical, but where specifics are needed, the author does not shy from providing them.

The fourth part, and the one least supported by existing evidence, is dedicated to other unidentified objects in the sky that night. The author makes the public relations mistake of calling them UFOs. What he means are unidentified aircraft. They do not come from outer space. I will call them UACs.

In the book "First Strike," James Sanders and I argue that a UAC may very well have been in the mix, and that UAC may have been a terrorist plane. The author, too, believes that a UAC was in the mix as well as three missiles, but he does not believe that the UAC was a manned aircraft. He makes a compelling argument that the UAC information that the FBI gathered was so hot that it was simply not allowed in to the official record. Every now and then, however, some information bled in accidentally. The most obvious example of the same was a photo taken by Linda Kabot that seemed to show a slender cylindrical object flying away from the scene of the crash.

Wisely, the author refrains from saying who fired the missiles or launched the aircraft, although the evidence strongly leads away from anything but a highly sophisticated military operation. It is possible that terrorist involvement may have gone no deeper than warnings given and credit claimed. Someone in Washington knows just how deep that involvement was.

The author argues that an independent panel from outside Washington is essential to conduct a new investigation. "Otherwise," he contends, "the same insider influences in both political parties, who have prevented the truth from being revealed previously, would control the investigation's outcome."

In the best of all possible worlds, Ray Lahr's case may just crack open the official door.


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KEYWORDS: flight800; tinfoilalert; twa800; twaflight800
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To: Hal1950

You need the passenger manifest....find the individuals related to the Clintons...you got your answer...just MHO.


141 posted on 11/09/2006 7:13:11 PM PST by mo
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To: pabianice
P-3 laser cannons

ROTFLMAO!

142 posted on 11/09/2006 7:16:28 PM PST by El Gato
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To: reagandemo
When the IslamoNazi's do a terrorist act they always brag about it. Why have they not done so in this case?

They apparently did, in advance.

Check this pdf out. Supposedly, it says:

"tomorrow morning we will strike the Americans in a way they do not expect and it will be very surprising to them," ...

"The Mujahadeen will respond harshly to the threats of the stupid American president. All will be shocked by the magnitude of the response. The determining of the place and time are in the hands of the Mujahadeen. The invaders must get ready to leave alive or dead; and their rendezvous will be morning, and isn't morning near."

143 posted on 11/09/2006 7:24:28 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Red Badger; Hal1950; B4Ranch

<< A Cli'ton cover-up of monumental proportions, IMHO ........ >>

It was in fact a Gore/UA/AA/TWA etceteras cover-up under the cover of the only-ever-incidental Cli'ton "presidency."

But too bad the conspiracy wackos do the coverers-up-of-the-facts the ongoing obfuscating favor of persisting with the insane delusional fantasy of a "missile attack."

Which insane delusional fantasy was first promulgated, as a component part of its so-far spectacularly successful cover up of the actual causes of the aircraft's loss, by none other than the basement plumbers within the original Gore gang!

The investigation of the accident involving United States Registered aircraft: N93119 remains "open as to probable cause." N93119 was the 1971-manufactured Boeing B-747-131 which had operated for 93,303 hours and 16,869 cycles, (Around 150% of Boeing's recommended life) operated by Trans World Airlines on July 17, 1996 as TW800. N93119's catastrophic loss was most likely the consequence of a walked-on terrorist bomb whose effect was aggravated by the inherent weakness of the forward cargo hatch locking mechanism and failure of that hatch, which inherent weakness and consequential failure, without the involvement of any explosives, has been the primary cause of several B-747 accidents.

Those probabilities, the effect of whose suppression (subsequently rewarded by the airlines in the form of huge "donations" to the Cli'tons and to the DNC) led directly both to further similar accidents and to the continued lax airport security that, in concert with others of the Cli'ton "administration's" criminal negligences, made possible the islamanazi atrocities of September 11 2001 -- and continues to this day -- were suppressed at the time by the Cli'tonians and continue to be suppressed by Cli'ton carryovers and by those other activist "Democrats." Who, now for more than 70 years, have owned operated and controlled the feral gummint's bureaucratic machinery.

Every "new" wacko conspiracy fantasy that leads away from the simple facts surrounding the loss of the already 50% out-of-life Boeing, N93119 but provides further obfuscation and assistance to only those the conspiracy fantasists believe they oppose.

Talk about useful idiots!

<< .... Lahr ... did not write this report (but) received ... "(this) most sophisticated piece of investigative reporting" .... (into which its author[s] ) "likely put years" -- "anonymously in the mail." >>

Its authors have plenty of time. They're employed full-time by the vast criminal enterprises manifest in America (including within the parasitical feral bureaucracy) in such as the Cli'ton Crime Family (See: "the basement plumbers within the original Gore gang," above) and in the "Democrats."

Their only responsibility is to the production of Soviet-styled post-Frankfurt School mis-and-dis-information that so easily alerts, attracts and engages their fellow travelers and by way of which they ensnare to their assistance the legions of useful idiots essential to the advancement of their cause. Of their evil.

And by the look of this thread -- and Tuesday's results -- they are doing just fine, are making their quotas -- and have, with their promulgation of the Michael Rivero-esque fiction that heads this thread, moved the "solving" of the cause of the loss of United States Aircraft N93119 even further toward the back of the stove!


144 posted on 11/09/2006 9:34:43 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: OldFriend

so now that makes 2 or 3 terrorist attacks during the clinton administration?


145 posted on 11/09/2006 9:36:56 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: ml/nj; dinoparty

<< They were fired (accidentally) by our own navy. President Reagan would have covered it up too. >>

Yair.

Right.

And so would the scores, likely hundreds, maybe thousands of otherwise decent and honorable in every way shape and form United States of America's Naval officers and sailors and others within the military and civilian chain of command who witnessed the firings.

Bullsh*t, they would.


146 posted on 11/09/2006 9:39:56 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: CountryBumpkin

<< .... I see nothing in the article but kooky embellishment wrapped around 10th-person conspiracy conjecture. >>

Well said.

That's what I see, too.


147 posted on 11/09/2006 9:44:22 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: MediaMole; Rokke

actually, a little further west then fire island. the immediate south shore, from jones beach east for miles along ocean parkway - is sparsely populated. but still, how do you get a SAM there? drive it in a pickup truck?

I never bought the missile theory. but a bomb on board, based on what we know about AQ and Bojinka - I could believe that.


148 posted on 11/09/2006 9:50:20 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Strategerist; OldFriend
I refer to it as an accidental center fuel tank explosion, myself. Watch who you're speaking for.

Seconded!

149 posted on 11/10/2006 12:46:02 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: ncfool

Please tell me you forgot the sarcasm or tinfoil tag. Are you actually saying the lack of a launch report is due to gay sex?


150 posted on 11/10/2006 12:48:54 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
How does a fuel tank explode from fuel pump wiring sparks when the wiring is outside the tank?

Trust me, this sort of thing happens. We lost a couple of KC135s (one in mid-air, one on the ground) and a C-141 from just these sorts of pump fires in the early Nineties. In these cases the pumps overheated from being left on after an operator error, but the conditions were similar to a shorted out pump.

151 posted on 11/10/2006 12:54:28 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: FReepaholic
There is no launch report in those eyewitness accounts. Even the mention of the witness looking at boats that may have launched a flare establishes that she did not see a launch and those boats were not the source. If this was a sea launched missile, someone would have either seen it launch or been able to track its exhaust back to the vessel that launched it.

Conspiracy theories are for losers.

152 posted on 11/10/2006 1:00:24 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: Concho

There was vapor in the tank. In a vapor state, Jet A lights just fine.


153 posted on 11/10/2006 1:02:26 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: Hal1950

154 posted on 11/10/2006 1:04:15 AM PST by zeebee
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To: ml/nj
You assume (incorrectly) that the missiles were fired by (Islamic) terrorists. They weren't. They were fired (accidentally) by our own navy. President Reagan would have covered it up too.

Sure, and there would only be a couple of hundred people MINIMUM in a position to know that, and all of them military members with no love of the Toon and plenty of character that would impel them to do the right thing. Grow up, for Pete's sake, you sound like a troop-hating DU lib.

155 posted on 11/10/2006 1:09:47 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: rootntootn

"who on that airplane did Clinton want dead?"

Looking at it from that theory's basis, my question would be who in the world in the U.S. military would have been that sold out to the personal ambitions of any President?


156 posted on 11/10/2006 1:10:08 AM PST by Twinkie ("I JUST LOVE READING MIA T's THREADS!" exclaimed Little Lulu.)
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To: XBob

There's not a chance in the world that any of those dubs would get through our SOSUS nets. Plus, all their stuff is diesel powered, so we'd have been tracking said subs as they traveled halfway around the world to carry out the strike.


157 posted on 11/10/2006 1:21:53 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: zeugma

Your tagline is especially appropriate, given your support of a moonbat theory like this.


158 posted on 11/10/2006 1:24:04 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: Cruising Speed
The most suspicious thing, imho, is that no upgrades were ordered for planes like that one--I mean according to the authorities, that plane blew up all on its own but no 'fixes' were ordered for all the other planes of the same type.

My God, you are so far off! This plane was a 747-100 built in 1971, with 33,000 flight hours and five more calendar years on the airframe than Boeing recommended. The darn thing should have been retired in 1991. Most of the 747-100s were simply retired after this incident, and as long as the airlines either retire their jets on time or refurbish them, there isn't a special fix needed.

159 posted on 11/10/2006 1:35:43 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: TMSuchman

That diver lied to you. Why in the world would he ever talk about it? They don't exactly pick blabbermouths for Navy dive teams.


160 posted on 11/10/2006 1:39:52 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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