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UN Erases Medieval Warm Period
Telegraph.co.uk ^

Posted on 11/09/2006 6:04:22 AM PST by chessplayer

"This week, I'll show how the UN undervalued the sun's effects on historical and contemporary climate, slashed the natural greenhouse effect, overstated the past century's temperature increase, repealed a fundamental law of physics and tripled the man-made greenhouse effect." " The UN's second assessment report, in 1996, showed a 1,000-year graph demonstrating that temperature in the Middle Ages was warmer than today. But the 2001 report contained a new graph showing no medieval warm period."

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To: chessplayer
An old saying: " Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody DOES anything about it."

Not so, anymore.

21 posted on 11/09/2006 6:35:11 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: chessplayer

Yeah, that what I was taught in HS and college. The Earth is cooling and we should prepare for the next Ice Age, because it's coming in a few centuries. NYC will be under a mile thick ice sheet and there's nothing we can do about it.......


22 posted on 11/09/2006 6:39:10 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: cogitator

a decent summary of the skeptical view.


23 posted on 11/09/2006 6:39:23 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: EyeGuy; DBrow; Red Badger; JimRed; chessplayer

"How to Lie with Democrates....aka. how to lie with the best of the liars"


24 posted on 11/09/2006 6:40:29 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: KarlInOhio

"Did they have any comment on Martian warming and the shrinking of the Mars icecaps?"


Nope. It seems they want to ignore stuff like that. It does`nt fit their agenda.


25 posted on 11/09/2006 6:41:39 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
You mean this one?

The UN marches towards its demise.

26 posted on 11/09/2006 6:41:39 AM PST by pabianice
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To: chessplayer

ping


27 posted on 11/09/2006 6:44:14 AM PST by phs3
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To: JimRed

Everything is politicized today.

Everything.

The entire world is becoming a "fascist" regime.


28 posted on 11/09/2006 6:44:17 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world now than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Now don't try to hijack thread into a WOsD thread!

Nobody is going to legalize Pol Pot!


29 posted on 11/09/2006 6:44:56 AM PST by DBrow
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To: pabianice

Another excerpt from the article;

"The UN, echoed by Stern, says the graph isn't important. It is. Scores of scientific papers show that the medieval warm period was real, global and up to 3C warmer than now. Then, there were no glaciers in the tropical Andes: today they're there. There were Viking farms in Greenland: now they're under permafrost. There was little ice at the North Pole: a Chinese naval squadron sailed right round the Arctic in 1421 and found none."

And the polar bears are still here.


30 posted on 11/09/2006 6:51:06 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Mustn't allow a few mere facts get in the way of a political campaign.
31 posted on 11/09/2006 6:51:43 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: chessplayer
I just read the whole article, and it just gets worse and worse. They increased lambda to get their results? It's like a nuclear power plant designer using e=mc3 to show how his plant puts out more power.
32 posted on 11/09/2006 6:57:27 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: JimRed
So now, there are politicized weather charts?
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When scientific reality conflicts with politics, science must yield.

There's power and money involved.
33 posted on 11/09/2006 7:07:58 AM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: palmer
a decent summary of the skeptical view.

Sadly. Actually, on a different thread, if the correspondent continues to show interest, I'm going to work through whatever he thinks is a vital point.

Some of it is addressed here, also in the comments. Chinese Navy Disproves Global Warming

You're actually the most informed skeptic I've ever encountered in terms of being knowledgeable about where the real uncertainties are. Monckton doesn't match your command of the subject. And I'm totally unimpressed that he's borrowing heavily from CO2Science.

34 posted on 11/09/2006 7:14:12 AM PST by cogitator
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To: chessplayer
Only 30 years ago, scientists were anticipating a new Ice Age and writing books called The Cooling."

Lowell Ponte (author of that book) wasn't really a scientist. His main line of work has been a radio talk show host, and he's done some writing and editing.

Analysis of Lowell Ponte: The Cooling

35 posted on 11/09/2006 7:18:53 AM PST by cogitator
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To: Izzy Dunne
" Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody DOES anything about it."

I believe that is Mark Twain as well.

36 posted on 11/09/2006 7:49:50 AM PST by ichabod1 ("For make benefit of Our Glorious Socializt Revolution")
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To: DBrow
"Yes- in the name of global government, the past has now officially been changed..."

Nicely put. Facts are often inconvenient and have to occasionally be "adjusted" to support a particular viewpoint. The UN is very good at this.

37 posted on 11/09/2006 7:56:26 AM PST by Starboard
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To: DBrow
You need to look beyond mere liberalism, Laz, the only solution to global warming is the end to industrial capitalism and the immediate switch to agrarian socialism.

That's why Islam allows four wives: 2 to pull the plow; one to steer it; and one to take care of the house, haul the water, fix the meals, take care of the kids, peel Master's grapes....

38 posted on 11/09/2006 8:02:46 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Top graph is UN fake "hockey stick"...

Bottom graph shows actual historical temps with Medieval Warming Period.. Note contrast to present 2000 temps..

39 posted on 11/09/2006 9:37:42 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom... Not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach

There is no citation in the article indicating the source of the lower graph reconstruction.


40 posted on 11/09/2006 9:55:15 AM PST by cogitator
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