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Marriage Wins (this is NOT a Vanity!)
National Review Online ^
| 11/08/2006
| Stanley Kurtz
Posted on 11/08/2006 1:39:54 PM PST by Molly Pitcher
With the important exception of Arizona, 2006 was an excellent election for those who believe that marriage is the union of a man and a woman. Amendments defining marriage as a man-woman union passed in seven out of eight states (Virginia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Wisconsin, Colorado, South Dakota, and Idaho) by an average vote of 61 percent. The narrow loss in Arizona was not because voters favored gay marriage, but because of a successful campaign against the measures ban on domestic partner benefits.
The Arizona result might seem to indicate that voters favor domestic partner benefits, yet even here the message was mixed. Colorado, for example, not only passed a marriage amendment, but also defeated a separate measure creating domestic partnership benefits. And several other state amendments that included civil-union/domestic-partnership bans also passed. Wisconsin, for example, had a measure much like Arizonas. Yet the amendment passed comfortably in this fairly liberal state, even in the face of a huge effort by same-sex-marriage supporters. So voters everywhere still see marriage as the union of a man and a woman. They are more closely divided on the matter of civil unions and domestic partnerships, yet lean against these as well.
No doubt well see more state votes on marriage amendments in 2008, and perhaps a measure introduced in Arizona stating the definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman, while not dealing with domestic partnerships. (For ongoing coverage of the state-amendment battles, the best source is Maggie Gallaghers marriagedebate.com blog.)
There are still plenty of ways for the marriage issue to explode into a multi-state crisis. All it would take is for one state to adopt full same-sex marriage especially if that state has no law comparable to the Massachusetts statute that prohibits couples from marrying there if their union would be illegal in their home state. A full-fledged gay-marriage state, without a Massachusetts-style statute on out-of-state unions, would create a national Mecca for same-sex marriage, and would likely launch a series of lawsuits in other states. That could speed up the legal path to a big decision by the U. S. Supreme Court.
There is now a good case to be made that turning to liberal courts to make an end-run around the legislative process was a serious strategic error for supporters of same-sex marriage. More than half of the states now have marriage amendments in place, and that number seems likely to grow.
Nonetheless, if we someday see a legal challenge to the federal Defense of Marriage Act, there is a very real possibility that the Supreme Court could impose same-sex marriage on the nation as a whole, despite the passage of these state-level amendments. That is why we need a federal marriage amendment. In the meantime, the passage of these state amendments has the effect of narrowing the potential range of same-sex marriage to an ever smaller circle of jurisdictions. So while, in the absence of a national amendment, the gay marriage movements legal strategy has a real prospect of ultimate success, it has backfired badly in the meantime.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: colorado; dma; homosexualagenda; liberalcourts; moralabsolutes; samesexmarriage; ussc
7 out of 8...Not bad. The Colorado issues were very trickily worded - both of them - but they figured it out. Kudos to those voters on those issues, at least.
To: Molly Pitcher
For those saying the percentages are down, remember that is an apples and oranges argument. The states most passionate about the issue would obviously be the first to react. So states that follow cannot be defined as a lessening of the sentiment elsewhere. You could only know that if you revoted in each of those elsewheres. All other speculation is apples and oranges.
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posted on
11/08/2006 1:43:48 PM PST
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
To: Molly Pitcher
Wisconsin vote was
For 1,259,486 59.4 %
Against 860,966 40.6 %
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posted on
11/08/2006 1:49:00 PM PST
by
UB355
(Slower traffic keep right)
To: Molly Pitcher
Marriage Wins
Britney Spears is relieved.
To: Molly Pitcher
So what? Some judge will just throw all this out anyway! (Sorry, cynicism and defeatism winning the day here)
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posted on
11/08/2006 1:50:45 PM PST
by
Rummyfan
(Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
To: Molly Pitcher
Wooptee-friggen-doo.
Thats putting a shine on the election day sneaker.
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posted on
11/08/2006 1:55:36 PM PST
by
MaDeuce
(Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Alright, you make a good point WRT demographics. But I would like to see normalized data on the trend of these votes over time.
I suspect that you would see evidence of weakening as we (the corporate "we", that is) slowly compromise our moral standards.
Thoughts?
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posted on
11/08/2006 2:00:51 PM PST
by
kinsman redeemer
(The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
To: kinsman redeemer
We are collectively wearing down probably more than weakening our moral standards. And we are buying silly arguments that allow us to deceive ourselves by thinking we haven't compromised our values when in fact we have. So weakening, but only in that we won't be honest with ourselves.
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posted on
11/08/2006 2:20:26 PM PST
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
To: All
Hold on folks.....check this out:
From: Jeff & Rennie
Date: 11/08/06 12:36:44
Subject: Unnoticed Election Day Story
Wednesday, November 8, 2006
The unnoticed Election Day story
Posted: November 8, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
© 2006
Forget yesterday's elections for a moment just a moment.
There are plenty of pundits and would-be pundits offering analysis of the results today and it will be spewing forth for weeks and months.
But a huge story broke yesterday that got almost no attention because it was overshadowed by stories of people going to the polls voting. In fact, I would dare say that this story could have more impact on our lives in America in the next 20 years than the results of yesterday's midterm congressional elections.
I'm talking about news of an imminent action by the New York City Board of Health to permit people born in the city to change the sex recorded on their birth certificates and, thus, change their legal sexual identity.
(Column continues below)
Think about the implications of this move.
At first blush it may not sound so momentous:
It's just New York City;
It's just for people born there.
But, if that's your reaction, you miss the point.
Boards of health have not historically been considered political agencies subject to lobbying pressures by activist groups. But this action is very much the result of such lobbying activity by a small but determined group of "transgendereds" and wannabe "transgendereds."
Let's face it: There's no good health reason for such an action even to be considered.
Since boards of health are unelected and relatively unaccountable bodies, they can take actions like this without suffering political fallout just like unaccountable judges.
Surely everyone can see how this action can bring to a screeching halt all of the political debate taking place across the country over same-sex marriage. Because if all Person X has to do to marry Person Y is make a cosmetic change on his or her birth certificate, than all the constitutional amendments in the world can't save the institution of marriage.
And, fundamentally, I think that is the real intent behind this move.
This is the way the manipulative "social engineers" operate. They know they can't win an election. They know they can't win an honest and open debate on their issues. So they force their will upon the people whether it is through a judge's ruling or an action of an unaccountable bureaucracy that can say its political decision was made for "health reasons."
Now imagine the next domino falling. Will it be Los Angeles? Will it be San Francisco? Will it be the whole state of California? Or will Massachusetts beat the Golden State to the slap?
Do you see why this overlooked local story may someday overshadow in impact all of the millions of votes cast in yesterday's election?
This is why I've been telling Americans for years and years that they focus too much attention on elections and too little attention on other ways our nation's political and social and cultural agenda is being set, often in spite ofthe way Americans vote.
Think about this sexual identity story. Beginning next month, people born in New York will be able to change historical records permanently. People who were born girls will be able to say they were actually born boys. People who were actually born boys will be able to say they were born girls.
Since when does lying have anything to do with health? Don't ask me. But that's the story from New York and I believe it could have profound ramifications for the nation.
Don't worry about how states voted on marriage amendments yesterday. The debate is over because sexual identity just became as simple to change as a stroke of the pen.
To: UB355
Wisconsin vote was
For 1,259,486 59.4 %
Against 860,966 40.6 %
I'm proud to say I was part of that 59.4%, and they thought the marriage ammendment would only get 39% approval.
They never polled me. :)
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