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LIVE THREAD: ELECTIONS 2006

Posted on 11/07/2006 5:04:31 PM PST by Dog

Please Mods can we have one central Live thread ...its tough jumping from thread to thread to get results.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; elections
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To: Darkwolf377

I'll definitely make it a point to discuss it with her. ;)


7,301 posted on 11/08/2006 2:00:36 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: onyx

Funny. Typical, but funny.


7,302 posted on 11/08/2006 2:00:45 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: onyx
"Not Brown in Ohio"

Well the commercials I heard on him said he was for a women's Right to choose. So may say that is moderate, but not I!

7,303 posted on 11/08/2006 2:00:58 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Howlin
I've seen that repeated and have yet to see or hear it -- got link???

I've heard it several places. Here's one from National Review's The Corner:

http://corner.nationalreview.com

Please, Please, Please [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Tell me Tony Snow didn't say this. Via a reader: "FoxNews reporting from the White House: White House spokesman Tony Snow reacted to the change in House control by allowing they're disappointed, but that it presents some intriguing opportunities, such as passing comprehensive immigration reform which failed in the previous Republican House."

7,304 posted on 11/08/2006 2:00:59 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Watching these web sites, it's impossible to figure out what the heck's going on.

Looking at the numbers on CNN (and the Secretary of State's website) there've got to be at leat another 40,000-50,000 votes out there, but I don't see where they're coming from - or where the votes adding up now are coming from, either.


7,305 posted on 11/08/2006 2:01:08 AM PST by furquhart (Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
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To: furquhart
Democracy? The Founders didn't aim to create a democracy.

Actually you are right. They created a representative republic.

But please tell me what you think should be done to get the people to "vote correctly".

Maybe we should go back to only land-owning white males?

7,306 posted on 11/08/2006 2:02:18 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: NYCVirago

You'll have to excuse me, but I'd have to see the exact quote before I'll put any credence in that.


If we've learned anything in this little saga it's that the press lies -- theirs AND ours.


7,307 posted on 11/08/2006 2:02:30 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Darkwolf377

Wait a sec .. the horror thing. Is that a big interest of yours that comprises a large part of your activities and focus? That could cause one to chill. Just askin' ;).


7,308 posted on 11/08/2006 2:03:15 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: NYCVirago
Would you please stop with this? Thanks to voters like you, we got stuck with Bill Clinton. Twice. Don't tell me they didn't affect the race, becuase it's nonsense.

Voters like me? How did I put Clinton in office by voting for Bush and Dole? Maybe you should get some rest.

Look, Libertarians have little in common with the current incarnation of the GOP. Complaining that the Libertarians stole votes from the GOP is like complaining that Greens did.

How is a Libertarian voter helping to elect a democrat? He isn't voting for the democrat and he has no desire to vote for the republican either. His vote is a wash.

You guys crack me up. Libertarians are pounded on FR on a daily basis and yet you feel entitled to their vote?

7,309 posted on 11/08/2006 2:03:35 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: onyx
Exactly! Harold Edsel Ford ran as a moderate, but his corrupt family is well known in TN.

Frankly, I'm surprised that Corker won, given his very lame campaign. "I'm from Tennessee, Ford's from DC..."

Glad that he did win, though. Surprised about Allen, but I don't know the local situation. Not too surprised about Ohio, though. DeWine was rather spineless, and there are/were some serious problems with the state GOP. That state really missed the boat on the governorship though.

7,310 posted on 11/08/2006 2:03:40 AM PST by meyer (Kerry - the voice of true democRAT feelings. Vote them out!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Those aren't the SOS's numbers and include Broadwater and Glacier among other counties.

Meagher and Yellowstone are still out as is 75% of Fergus.


7,311 posted on 11/08/2006 2:03:49 AM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: NYCVirago

You know that immigration stuff was a loser for the Republican Party from the getgo. Bush was actually right on that issue and so was the Senate and the House wasn't. The House paid for it.


7,312 posted on 11/08/2006 2:03:52 AM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Howlin
You'll have to excuse me, but I'd have to see the exact quote before I'll put any credence in that. If we've learned anything in this little saga it's that the press lies -- theirs AND ours.

Fair enough. But I won't be surprised if it happens.

7,313 posted on 11/08/2006 2:03:52 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: JeffAtlanta
If a person isn't going to vote for the republican anyway, it makes no difference in the race if he stays home or votes 3rd party.

But it does. Every vote that does not go to the Republican opponent is one less vote that the Democrat needs to win the election. Say you have an election with three people and nine voters. Four vote for the Democrat and three vote for the Republican. The other two decide not to vote, but would vote for the Republican if they did vote. Are you telling us with a straight face that it makes no difference to the outcome if they stay home or vote for the third party candidate?

7,314 posted on 11/08/2006 2:03:52 AM PST by kesg
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To: jveritas

I don't know if Ford conceded, but it doesn't matter if he did or didn't.

Corker is ahead, but he was much further ahead before Davidson Co. came in, which was after the race was called for Corker. Knox Co. still isn't in. Knoxville is in Knox Co. and is 16% black. Although it is in eastern TN, and eastern TN is very red, in 2004, Knox Co. went 110k for Bush (62.5%), 66k for Kerry. This year, with everyone pissed off at the GOP, Knoxville being 16% black (and Harold Ford is black), and Corker not being a particularly inspiring candidate, the GOP may not fare nearly as well. Corker's lead shrunk a great deal in Davidson Co. (Nashville), a place where he should have done a bit better. All things considered, I still think there is reason to worry about keeping TN until Knox Co. is in. We have been seeing that the 2004 Bush vote has not been reliable in predicting an awful lot of races, so Bush's 62.5% in '04 could translate into something much smaller this year, in view of the other factors I cited. You see, in 2004, Davidson Co. went 55% for Kerry, but they went 60.5% for Ford tonight. If that trend follows into Knox Co., this race could go sour - probably not, but maybe. I don't think it's in the bag yet.


7,315 posted on 11/08/2006 2:04:14 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
"Many here on FR are confused to the point that they think the rest of the world mirrors FR. Your main goal may be to defeat democrats but to third party voters, there isn't any difference between the GOP and the Dems."

I Totally agree, blaiming Third party candidates is just a waste of effort.

It is simple, talk to more people about your issues get them excited about your platform and get them to the polls. That wins elections, all else is just noise.

7,316 posted on 11/08/2006 2:04:17 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: furquhart

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these yet to be reported counties had to be recounted because of shady voter registration by ACORN.


7,317 posted on 11/08/2006 2:04:18 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I think the President will order airstrikes on Iran if the Mullahs don´t cooperate fully. Iran is not going to get nuclear weapons!!


7,318 posted on 11/08/2006 2:04:42 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: marajade
Well we'll have the next two years to test out your theory and see if its true. My guess is, it isn't.

Geesh, did I say there was no difference between the GOP and the Dems? I wrote that it is the mindset of 3rd party voters.

7,319 posted on 11/08/2006 2:04:45 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: NYCVirago

Triangulation.

There's a good political strategy in here. After all, it took Clinton to victory in 1996 and it took Arnold and, literally, revesed the polls by, what, sixty points (from being down about 60-30 to up that way?).

It's really quite simple, now. Work out some kind of showey "deal" on Iraq and immigration. Get enough moderate Democrats to vote to make the tax cuts permanent. Accept the minimum wage increase...

And, blamo, Bush's approval numbers go back up to 60.

Of course, that means sacrificing important national priorities, but a good chunk of the Republican Party has shown that it's not willing to do so, so why shoud the President?


7,320 posted on 11/08/2006 2:05:00 AM PST by furquhart (Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
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