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Live Thread - California General Election - 7 November 2006

Posted on 11/07/2006 7:06:48 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

Welcome to the live thread for the California Primary Election. Polls are open until 8pm tonight. If you are a registered voter, it is your duty to vote and defend your rights and civil liberties, protect your pocketbook, and vote the bums out where applicable.

Feel free to discuss issues key to your local area that others may be interested in. Post your polling place experiences if you like. And post numbers as they come in later tonight.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angelides; bonds; bowen; brown; bustamante; calelection; calelections; chiang; cigarettetax; corrigan; eminentdomain; feinstein; garamendi; gastax; jessicaslaw; kennard; lockyer; mcclintock; mcpherson; moonbeam; mountjoy; november7; oiltax; parentalnotification; parrish; philtheatyerwheaties; poizner; poochigian; prop1a; prop1a1b1c1d1e; prop1b; prop1c; prop1d; prop1e; prop83; prop84; prop85; prop86; prop87; prop88; prop89; prop90; schwarzenegger; sexoffenders; strickland; taxes
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To: goldstategop
Looking at where the races are now, we'll have Arnold + one other state-wide "Republican," Poizner.

There are no coat-tails. None. Zero.

321 posted on 11/08/2006 12:45:47 AM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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To: newzjunkey

I'm greatly disturbed to discover I may well have been too optimistic about our chances in CA. It's simply chilling.

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if you aren't sanctioned by the New Majority elements and operatives in the Ca GOP power structure, you're toast.. I'm surprised McPherson is down.. not so about all the rest of the ticket.

btw,, now ya know why I went on vacation at this time..It's hot and humid here in Kona. no chills here. :-)


322 posted on 11/08/2006 12:49:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Aloha!!!)
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To: newzjunkey

Why would anyone have believed there ever were coattails?

It's counterintuitive...
Arnie slides to the left to get democrat votes and those voters are going to vote for those who still promote Republican ideals?
Does not compute!

It was a nice tale spun by the big-tent spinmeisters.

Cash and advertising would have pulled them over the edge--something they did very little of.


323 posted on 11/08/2006 12:50:41 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: newzjunkey; calcowgirl

So much for Dan Schnur's coattail theory. Bah!


324 posted on 11/08/2006 12:50:49 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Schnur's theory was garbage from the beginning, IMO. See above.


325 posted on 11/08/2006 12:51:40 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
The CAGOP did NOTHING to help downticket candidates. Why should we support a party like that? They shouldn't a dime from conservatives.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

326 posted on 11/08/2006 12:52:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Schnur's theory goes right up there with "only moderates can win"
Secretary of State
70.9% ( 17783 of 25090 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 8, 2006 at 12:43 am  
  
   Candidate                 Votes      Percent 
   Debra Bowen (Dem)         2,310,019  47.4 %  
*  Bruce McPherson (Rep)     2,242,422  45.9 %  
   Glenn McMillon, Jr. (AI)     78,336   1.6 %  
   Forrest Hill (Grn)          102,679   2.1 %  
   Gail Lightfoot (Lib)         99,121   2.0 %  
   Margie Akin (PF)             50,792   1.0 %  


327 posted on 11/08/2006 12:53:41 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Indeed. I'm pissed. We've got gazillions in newly approved bonds, two millionaire RINOs, and no eminent domain protection nor parental rights over their children. Whooptie-doo.


328 posted on 11/08/2006 12:53:49 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

and you expected? (ducks)


329 posted on 11/08/2006 12:55:15 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Aloha!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

And he is an incumbant, no less. If that only mods can win argument is true, he should be cruising to re-election.


330 posted on 11/08/2006 12:55:58 AM PST by AVNevis (In memory of Emily Keyes (1990-2006))
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To: calcowgirl

any reports of the actual turn-out statewide?


331 posted on 11/08/2006 12:56:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Aloha!!!)
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To: All
Sadly, McClintock is done. Even with the Orange and SD results, he still can't dig in to Garamendi. I hope I see I am wrong when I wake up in the morning, but tonight I am heading to bed very pessimistic.
332 posted on 11/08/2006 1:00:44 AM PST by AVNevis (In memory of Emily Keyes (1990-2006))
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Chavez Concedes SJ Mayor's Race
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/15953157.htm

8-)

Warthog Gal's Dad Wins!


333 posted on 11/08/2006 1:01:31 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Aloha!!!)
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To: calcowgirl
72.5% ( 18189 of 25090 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 8, 2006 at 12:48 am  

Governor
  Candidate                         Votes     Percent
  Phil Angelides (Dem)          1,968,605      38.4 %
*  Arnold Schwarzenegger (Rep)  2,907,867      56.7 %
  Edward C. Noonan (AI)            36,705       0.7 %
  Peter Camejo (Grn)              115,380       2.3 %
  Art Olivier (Lib)                65,858       1.2 %
  Janice Jordan (PF)               40,167       0.7 %

Lieutenant Governor
  Candidate                         Votes     Percent
  John Garamendi (Dem)          2,458,143      48.7 %
  Tom McClintock (Rep)          2,312,188      45.8 %
  James D. King (AI)               40,205       0.7 %
  Donna J. Warren (Grn)           135,927       2.7 %
  Lynnette Marie Shaw (Lib)        81,693       1.7 %
  Stewart A. Alexander (PF)        24,686       0.4 %

Secretary of State
  Candidate                         Votes     Percent
  Debra Bowen (Dem)             2,362,929      47.6 %
*  Bruce McPherson (Rep)        2,266,537      45.7 %
  Glenn McMillon, Jr. (AI)         79,614       1.6 %
  Forrest Hill (Grn)              104,473       2.1 %
  Gail Lightfoot (Lib)            100,921       2.0 %
  Margie Akin (PF)                 51,820       1.0 %

State Controller
  Candidate                         Votes     Percent
  John Chiang (Dem)             2,479,989      50.1 %
  Tony Strickland (Rep)         2,024,153      40.9 %
  Warren M. Campbell (AI)          63,401       1.2 %
  Laura Wells (Grn)               151,033       3.1 %
  Donna Tello (Lib)               112,389       2.2 %
  Elizabeth C. Barron (PF)        120,907       2.5 %

Attorney General
  Candidate                         Votes     Percent
  Jerry Brown (Dem)             2,789,687      55.8 %
  Chuck Poochigian (Rep)        1,943,357      38.9 %
  Michael Sutton Wyman (Grn)      110,444       2.2 %
  Kenneth A. Weissman (Lib)       104,568       2.0 %
  Jack Harrison (PF)               58,016       1.1 %

State Treasurer
  Candidate                         Votes     Percent
  Bill Lockyer (Dem)            2,661,004      54.0 %
  Claude Parrish (Rep)          1,864,064      37.8 %
  E. Justin Noonan (AI)            54,906       1.1 %
  Mehul M. Thakker (Grn)          113,384       2.2 %
  Marian Smithson (Lib)           197,737       4.1 %
  Gerald Sanders (PF)              40,823       0.8 %


334 posted on 11/08/2006 1:06:40 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

Chuck Reed, a person I voted for who actually won! Amazing, ain't it? :-/

I also voted for Dolores Carr for DA of Santa Clara County and she's won that race too, so I actually have 2 out of, what, 14 races if results hold? Yeeeech.


335 posted on 11/08/2006 1:06:41 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor, Strickland for Controller, Poochigian for AG, Mountjoy for Senate)
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To: NormsRevenge
a little snippet from the mercury new article..

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In a year when Republicans struggled nationwide, Schwarzenegger avoided the same fate by positioning himself as an ``Arnold Republican'' -- a bipartisan deal maker with strained ties to the Bush White House. The actor-governor was also blessed with a lusterless opponent who failed to energize his own party, even in a state known as a Democratic stronghold.

``The real key to this race began last year when the governor said, `I'm learning, I haven't done everything right,' '' said Schwarzenegger's strategist Matthew Dowd.

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The lesson, spend like a drunken sailor, borrow even more money than needed to pass around and to feed big donors ,, appoint a lot of lefties to posts and WA A A L A A A A Winner!!!

Enjoy the debtload, California, You earned it!

All Hail The Third Way!

336 posted on 11/08/2006 1:08:25 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Aloha!!!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I hear ya, CCC.  It's tough when your own party works against its own platform.
 
State Ballot Measures
75.4% ( 18915 of 25090 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 8, 2006 at 12:59 am
 
Prop Leading Description      YES    Percent       NO    Percent
Prop 1A Transp Fund Protect   3,920,235 76.8%     1,189,681 23.2%
Prop 1B Hwy/Air/Port Bond   3,117,028 60.9%     2,003,078 39.1%
Prop 1C Housing Shelter Fund   2,918,773 57.0%     2,202,547 43.0%
Prop 1D School Facility Bond   2,862,316 55.8%     2,272,940 44.2%
Prop 1E Disaster/Flood Bond   3,242,967 63.9%     1,832,702 36.1%
Prop 83 Sex Offender Reform   3,642,329 70.6%     1,523,131 29.4%
Prop 84 Water/Flood/Park   2,693,423 53.2%     2,372,919 46.8%
Prop 85 Parental Notificat.   2,401,736 46.3%     2,780,335 53.7%
Prop 86 Cigarette Tax   2,489,726 47.3%     2,770,505 52.7%
Prop 87 Energy/Oil Tax   2,325,012 44.5%     2,894,010 55.5%
Prop 88 Educ. Fund/Prop. Tax   1,164,990 22.7%     3,964,705 77.3%
Prop 89 Campaign Public Fund   1,273,304 25.0%     3,802,208 75.0%
Prop 90 Eminent Domain   2,434,088 47.9%     2,644,999 52.1%

337 posted on 11/08/2006 1:09:36 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I saw Carr interviews a couple times, I wish her well. She got my vote too.


338 posted on 11/08/2006 1:09:57 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Aloha!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

It's tough when your own party works against its own platform.

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What platform? seriesly..


339 posted on 11/08/2006 1:10:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Aloha!!!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; calcowgirl
Why would anyone have believed there ever were coattails?

I wanted to believe. It was a rather seductive notion, I wanted to see Republicans make gains, and believe had less time been squandered on pumping up the psychotic slate of bonds and just a bit on the down-ticket Republicans, things may have gone differently.

When McClintock said he and Arnold were running as a ticket, or expressed that Arnold had supported him with 10 fundraising appearances, I took that as evidence the down-ticket were getting important support.

With McClintock seemingly out of it, we'll be back to square one to challenge Tony Villar in 2010 for governor. Poinzer is mush, a billionaire "moderate" Republican so two "moderates" won, zero conservatives.

Unless Al Queda does some urban renewal in L.A., I don't see CAGOP rebounding with any strength.

340 posted on 11/08/2006 1:12:42 AM PST by newzjunkey (under construction)
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